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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:35 pm 
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Does anyone have any ideas on what it takes to go from attracting "cute" girls to the true hot babes. I can basically get consistent success with girls that are around 7 or below. But I have a lot more trouble with 8-9s, especially 9+ chicks.

A couple of problems I find:
1. There are fewer of them and it seems harder to get access in the first place because they are usually around territorial guys, or they are working.
2. I tend to stare, and get much more nervous.
3. Much harder to build that initial attraction.

If anyone has gotten over this hump... advice?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:38 pm 
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Some tips...

There are only two things that make HBs different from normal girls. 1) We typically get more nervous around HBs. Solution: a) three second rule b) remind yourself that girls are replaceable, so if you fuck up, there are plenty of other HB9s out there! Before you approach, remind yourself that all girls, no matter how hot, respond to alpha behavior. 2) HBs normally have more confidence since they are used to having people fawn over their good looks and having people pay attention to them. Solution: if she is your target, focus on the other people in the group. If she starts exhibiting attention seeking behavior, neg her by telling her to wait her turn, it's the polite thing to do, and then optionally asking her friends if she is always this needy. If she starts to lose interest, however, say "Hey, I'm the one talking over here - party's over here." I've said this to an HB9 in field and had her actually apologize to me and then ask me all about what I was talking about, switching from uninterested (which was a front) to super-interested (attention seeking behavior). The key thing to remember is that you need to lower her confidence and show her that she needs to work for you, not the other way around. As for building attraction, just use whatever method it is that you would normally use to build attraction with any other girl, just remember that you will need to neg the over-confident HB in the process.

Territorial guys...solution: Open the guys in the set first. Disarm them by pointing out something that they are wearing and say something about how you can relate to it (example: Band shirt: "Oh dude, I love that band! I tried seeing them a few months back but the show was sold out. Dude, that's legit, you must have good taste in music. etc. etc.") After this you can "realize" the girls in the group. On a separate note, I try to follow Ratisse's method of disarming the guys beforehand. As he says, "If I approach you when you have five or six HBs around you, you'll think 'wow, this guy's a dick, he just wants to get with one of these chicks and he's pretending to be friends with me,' but if I approach you earlier in the night before you meet those girls, you'll accept me as a 'buddy' when I approach you later." That's not a direct quote; it's a paraphrasing, but I think the point still comes accross: befriend random guys in the location that you're at. It will not only help your social proof, but it will disarm the guys later on.

Hopefully I could help. Good luck bro.

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