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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:01 pm 
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This is my first post here so greetings to everybody and thanks for reading!

I have just broken up after a 3.5 years relation. Actually it was me who said that I was feeling a bit bored with the relation losing spark, so we moved separately, but it seems that things went worse instead of better, leading to basically a definitive split up.

At the same time, 1.5 months ago, I started to get more and more interested in one jobmate (yeah, I know the basic advice of not gaming jobmates, but well, when it hits on you...). She is 22 (I am 29), pretty hot, shy but friendly, and with a good sense of humor. So we started to talk more and more face to face or in the internal company messenger, and the thing became more and more flirtatious. We also had our own fictional plots, like we both had gold rings so we should have marry one night and did not remember, or that she told me that I was fast like a vampire and we were like Bella and Edward. Yeah, lame, I know, but at least there was the idea of us as "a couple", with a connection. In my company, this girl is alone sorrounded by men, and you can see she likes attention, so well, I was complimenting her but also throwing negs from time to time to keep her down to earth.

As I said, she was quite flirty, telling me I was cool and sweet and very interesting person (I am Spanish, so well, in Estonia I turn to be quite exotic in the way I look and my cultural background, and I do stuff as music journalist too). I must said that I had to initiate most of the combos, but for example she was always answering SMS quite fast, showing interest back. I must add that this girl knew that I had a GF when I moved to Estonia (I am foreigner), but never asked me about her in all these last months.

So then we had the first night out together since she was working at the company, and I think it went pretty well. She joined me and other colleagues in a bar, and her body language was great, blushing when talking to me, playing with her hair showing me her neck, remembering details of my life and showing real interest. I must say I had other female friends around, and I think that helped to raise my social status, and make her play a bit hard for my attention. With the excuse of our "marriage" and the exchange of rings, we were holding hands, and I kino escalated hugging her here and there. But well, I was in the middle of splitting up with my GF, and I did not see it clear to go for a close, so working together, I wanted to take baby steps. She did not drink much, I was a bit drunk, so we took a taxi...but she went to her place and I continued to mine.

Next week we talked, and she said she had had a great time, and showed me tickets for a club we had talked the previous night about visiting, dropping the idea that we could go on friday or saturday. But it was the same week end I was moving out and had to discuss stuff with my GF, so I just said that unfortunately I was busy with the moving to a new flat, but would be great to do it some other time.

And then, later, for a couple of weeks, she flaked every time I proposed a plan. She was always busy, with "I will let you know" but nothing, still keeping it flirty. So I got a bit bored, and cut communication not initiating a combo for almost 2 weeks.

So yesterday and today she started the combo with me, asking me about why I was staying late at work and then commenting on some picture I had sent to all the jobmates, and we were chatting most of the day (not much work to do these days).

The tone was flirty as always, but every time I would approach the idea of doing something outside the office, the wall seemed to be there. So well, I just told her that I thought it was cool to hang around outside, for the conversations we had had before, but if she was not interested, there was no problem, I also had a life and other things to do. Just that it was a bit weird if supposedly she was cool with it. So she just said that was feeling depressed lately and not a good company to go out, etc. but would like to do something in the future.

We continued talking, and then she mentioned that tomorrow she has to go to visit her boyfriend at the hospital, because he has to undergo a minor surgery thing. I was pretty shocked inside me, because in all the time she had worked there (8 months), and in all the conversations with me, a BF had never been mentioned. But well, as I said, I was trying it to play cool and funny, with references to our private jokes, our nicknames, etc. So we talked a bit more and I asked if that was the reason (her BF at the hospital) why she was down, and she said that no. But also said that this BF was actually her ex-BF, and they had come back together recently, but their relation was complicated so that is why she had not talked about him.

Well, thinking about it, I suppose that maybe explains the flakes after the initial attention, that she was also in this mid-situation of coming or not with the BF, feeling attraction for me, but then once they came back, does not want to meet other guys. I don´t know. Did I blow it up not going for the close that week she seemed to be more receptive? I am not even sure if at that time she had come back with this ex-BF or not, and as I said, working together and with me in the middle of splitting up with my GF, I wanted to take baby steps, although obviously there seemed to be some kind of attraction there.

Well, if they broke up in the past, I suppose it can happen again. It is weird if she really feels depressed lately when they just re-started their relation, when usually when you start something, you see everything in pink and with new hopes. Any advice how I should behave with her from now on? I do not want to fall into the friends zone, or sound needy, but at the same time I am not so sure she would let me know or set a date in case she would become single again in the future. Of course, I am planning to continue improving my game and meeting other wonderfun women. Estonia does not lack of nice chicks...

Thanks a lot for your help beforehand, sorry for the long post and for the many possible AFC mistakes I must have done in this interaction, and hope I can learn many useful things to improve in the future.

Abubillo


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:26 pm 
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Man I am in almost the exact same boat as you. It's kind of scary actually hahaha.
Check out my story here:

things-get-hot-then-she-finds-a-man-vt56228.html


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:40 pm 
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Yes, I see there are quite many similarities there ;)

Well, obviously, I do not seem to be the best person to give advice, since I would appreciate other people more experienced in these situations would comment here. I can just say for your case "good luck bro"!

About my case and thinking about these cases in general, I think it is a bit stupid that sometimes we put the girl on a pedestal, far from the reality. For me it happened this last week, it was my company party, and got to know quite many things I did not know about her. It is true she recently came back with the BF, but it happened that previously she had met in dates outside the office some of my other co-workers, and at least I know she made out with one some months ago.

So I was thinking she was the sweetest and most innocent girl on earth, and she was also flirting with other 3 o 4 as "plan b" at the same time than thinking if coming back with the ex or not. I saw with my own eyes at the company party last Friday how like 6 different guys hit on her. She is the kind of girl who wants to be friendly with everybody, but sometimes does not put clear limits. And for me it was quite a turn off, I did not speak with her the whole night. I do not mind to give a first step when I like a woman, but I also expect the woman to make an effort for me on return if she is really interested. It does not make you feel so special anymore if you think that she especially flirty with you, and then maybe it happens that it is you and another 10 :)

Actually, in the end, the day after the party, I cut the crap, called her and set a meeting face to face to talk things straight, because I was even doubting if the ex-bf was real, or an excuse to avoid guys at work. It turns it is real, and that seems the main reason why being so nice 2 monhts ago with me and then flaking on setting dates. So basically a question of bad timing, maybe before I could have hang around with her easily, because I still think there is attraction here between us. But well, life goes on. I also though about what kind of girl I would like. Would I date this girl, and then be thinking if she was going to flirt with other 5 when she would go out without me? So my perception about her changed.

You know the funny thing. Since I cut the crap and talked straight about my thoughts and feelings etc, we went to the cinema and it was fine. And this week she has been the one opening me in messenger or being nice face to face. I think at some point women appreciate a man being a man, and having the balls to call them, meet them, and say what they think. So probably nothing will happen, but if in the future she gets single again, I am sure she is going to see me not just like a friend. Or maybe not, once again, advice or comments are welcome... :)

Abubillo


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:11 am 
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knock it over and rebuild... see she was obviously happy with the way you were treating her before and it made her feel special and unique.
i'm not saying completely freeze her out and start way back from the beginning but dont throw yourself at her feet either.
play around the room when you are at like work functions and stuff with her around and make her feel as though she is missing out on something great


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