hey guys

have this hot girl (HB 9) living at my halls. we know each other since 2 weeks. Last week we constantly kiss closed. She is very introverted (shy)... and even so she is totally hot she hardly knows anybody...

well yesterday she came over to watch a movie at my place...we made out. i played with her breasts.... however always when i wanted to move my hand down her pants i got LMR... i tried to overcome it by ignoring it... but she insisted... i then tried the freeze out technique several times (checking emails)... but besides making out+ massaging her breasts nothing happend.

any tips guys... (she is definatley into me, how can i overcome her shyness)???

thx

any advice guys?

I had a girl who did that... everything except the F close would be fine! I later found out that it was that time of the month for her. So ask her what the deal is. Mostly they will tell you if you ask it inquisitively. Also, if you don't want to ask, next time you guys are making out, start to undress her starting at the top. Then if she still gives you LMR... it would be easier to ask...

All da best!

Hi man,

Let me start by excusing myself for my bad english =)
anyway:

What I found really helpful if the girl helps to create the suduction scenario.
So what I mean by that: instead of trying to arouse her by making out and massaging her breasts, you can go for the more romantic way. Get her over to your place, set op some candles and ask her to light them and dim the lights while you get something to eat. This way you involve HER to set op the seduction scenario wich may be enough to stop LMR.

And like mentioned before, I found it also helpfull to take off the top as soon as possible. Most girls don't find that sexual, but if she gives you LMR you can just call her out on it. Her top is already off.

1 last tip: I personally think that movement is a great key in gaming.
Instead of just sitting on the couch and making out, try to move her if she gives you LMR. It may look like nothing but moving from the couch to the fireplace or bedroom sets another frame and you can get around LMR.

Hope it helps man =)

Cheers!

thx guys, some great tips there!

so, i brought her into my room again, we make out, i rubb her breast, after like 30minutes i try to move my hand down again: no success...

later she tells me to turn of the light in the room

we make out some more... i start biting/kissing her neck.. she really goes crazy, she takes of her bra (shirt still on)... she rubbs her clit on my legg and i can feel she is wet like the niagra fall... i try again to move down south... no sucess

after like 2 1/2 hours of "soft porn"/dry-sex she has to leave....

Is it just me or is something going wrong here??????

Funny. The girl i'm with right now actually does the same. Dry humping seems to be okay, sometimes in full nude, but she doesn't let me touch her down there. I've only done it once to her.

And that sucks, because I'd easily make her cum if she'd at least let me give her oral.

Anyway, I feel your pain, man. Maybe i'll create a topic of my own about it if you don't get a good answer.

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Can anyone please help Willdream and me?????

People usually concentrate how to destroy LMR when it appears, not when you are gaming and talking to her. Its like knowing that there is a chance that its going to rain outside because the forecast guy from the TV said so. Why not take the umbrella with you before you go out?

Try to prevent future LMR by talking about these five things ( in a story mode ) that stops her sleeping with a guy ( Vin DiCarlo )
1. STD ( Yeah, i once had a friend who didnt use a condom with a girl and i told him that i was just stupid because making love is a two way street. This indicates that you are responsible guy who thinks girl when having sex, not some idiot.)
2. Pregnancy ( i dont usually bring this subject up but it can be related to the previous sentence )
3. Falling too fast for love that leads to stalking
4. Social consequences like she thinking that her CO- workers might think that she is a slut if they find out a guy having one night stand with her ( tell a story about you meeting a guy at a bar counter and him pointing out girls that he has slept with. Info her that you find this very very stupid and that you keep all the personal things to yourself )
5. Her sleeping with me too soon and than by ruining the changes for the future relationship / friendship

-Vin DiCarlo says that these 5 things are the things that prevents women sleeping with a men in this modern society

And another one...

Some tips for future fingering to prevent LMR:
1. When you start fingering, dont slip your hand from the front way but INSTEAD go through the back. They rarely resist it when you put your another hand behind her back and you slipp your hand into her pants and start fingering her from behind.
2. While you finger her, dont stop it when you start opening her buttons from her pants!! The common mistake is that guys stop fingerin which means that you stop produceing the pleasure. FINGER HER FROM THE BACK AND OPEN HER BUTTONS WITH YOUR ANOTHER HAND BY PULLING THE ZIPPER FIRST HALF WAY THROUGH AND THAN GRABBING HER BUTTONS!
3. Few good ways to submit her to have sex is to ask: " do you want me to put a condom " ( while fingering and opening her buttons ) When she says yes ( because she doesent want to get STD or pregnant ) she allows at the same time that you can take her and make love. Another way to do this is just tell her to " take your pants off " when you are fingering her and you have opener her zipper to the half way and her buttons.
4. When you have her pants down and she has agreed to have sex with you ( part 3 ) move your fingering hand from the back to the front inorder to produce more pleasure!

Respect to Vin DiCarlo who invented this

Tell me how it worked

[ Johnny B ]

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Here is another one orginally posted by bilbil85 which seems to work nicely when you watch the 5 things about women thinking whether jumping in bed with you or not. The golden key here is that you try to destroy her LMR BEFORE you make your final move.

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Yeah trust. It's a funny thing. I actually lost some faith in girls a couple of years ago". Now you need to pause here to get her to ask why. By doing the pause you achieve a couple of things. The first is that you don't blow your cover about your rehearsed story by reeling off a memorised statement. The second is that you may be placing her in the perfect position for your intentions. She will hopefully want to prove you wrong and restore your faith in the trust of women.

"I had a one night stand with a girl and we didn't see each other again for a couple of months". Here you are saying to her that one night stands are okay. The way you are saying it in open conversation with this girl will downplay the one night stand black cloud that hovers over it in girls minds.

Then say: "I lost her number so I couldn't catch up with her". You are now telling her that you didn't act like the typical male bastard by not ringing her after getting what all males only want. You're saying you would have, if only you hand't lost her number. It also says you still want to see a girl after a one night stand and she will think: "If I fuck him tonite he won't just burn me like other guys have done to my friends and also to me. This guy is great. I won't have to play the hard to get routine with him to keep him interested in me. I can fuck him tonite and he'll still ring me".

Then you say: "Anyway, what happened was that a very close friend of mine one day just came right out and asked me if I'd slept with this girl". You are now putting in her mind that you don't ever discuss women stories even with your close friends. She's thinking: "If he doesn't mouth off to his friends he probably doesn't tell anyone what he does".

Then say: "I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I never tell even my best friends what I do and don't do with girls, so she must have been the one to open her mouth". You're now acting shocked and amazed how the info got out because you don't even tell your best mates. You have made her believe your story about not telling your friends because it is a close mate who is telling you this news and you are just beside yourself as to how he would know what happened. She will be thinking now: "The girl must have been the one to tell his friend because who else would have"?

When you deliver these lines, after a while you will even start to believe them yourself. Try to let yourself get involved in the fantasy of your lines to women. When you convey your well timed lines in this manner you will be well on the way to getting the woman or women you desire."

[ Johnny B ]

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wow johnny some great tips there. thx for teh advice!!!!

No problemo, tell me how it worked

[ Johnny B ]

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f-close thx again