Hi all,

I work as a part time life guard and there is a girl there whos is super hot, so i started by ignoring her for abit, but when i was on shift with her we got talking and i tease her and neg her alot, but im struggling to know what to do now, she has mentioned to a fellow worker (in front of me) that she is going to dump her bf of 2.5yrs.

She has already asked for my cell/phone number so she can give me any shifts she doesnt want (IOI?)

She asks me alot of questions about my main job joiner/carpenter and seems interested.

i fool around with her pushing her wetting her and stuff like that and she sometimes hits me back and says things like im gonna get you back and things like that!

Problems:

Where do i go from here?

Alot of the lads there give her lots of attention and im the oldest there, im 27 and she is 20, and the majority are around 22yrs old,
So i relise i need to keep up and build sexual tension, but im running out of ideas and i know she wont stay single for long and she was talking to a guy she has worked with there for along time and she was playing with her hair whilst talking to him so has she fallen for him?

I dont want to blow it with her, i sometimes find myself in a room just me and her, such as the cleaning cupboard, should i make amove? i was thinking of saying are you ticklish and then start touching her and then make my move?? good idea or not?

Also think she knows i have a 19yr old gf, but things arnt really working out between us, so if this girl at work does like me then i would obiviously finish my current gf.

Soultions:

Card tricks?

ask her if she wants to go to the gym?

Start texting/facebooking her?

ignore her?

what should i do?

Please help this is my first post, i relise you shouldnt chase just one women but shes a good place to start!

Please post soon as im on shift with her on sunday!

Relax man, with this girl you need to be relaxed and confident. If your nervous and constantly thinking what you should do everytime you're with her it won't help your situation.

Possibilities : she gives you the shifts she doesn't want but you demand she buys you a drink (or what you prefer). Don't make her take advantage of you like she probably does with the others (you can even mention this in a funny way). Once you get the so called 'date' you can game her better. Remember: relax, you're the one with the experience so you're confident and try to get it through to her (You call the shots). Keep building that tension and look out for IOI's. You need to meet her outside the workplace soon.

Keep us posted

Thanks for the reply, i know shes back at uni in a few weeks so my chance will be gone, if i dont get any shifts off her what should i do to get her to meet me?

shes said things to me like 'oh can you make furniture' and 'im like yeh sure' and she said 'should have got in you in then' so i thought (IOI), but i need more before i feel i can take the risk of going in for the kill, i feel un easy sometimes when there are lots of people in the staff room im uncomfortable, unsure why i act very confident when its just me and her on shift.

What do you think of this plan?,
She has given me a shift but it isnt confirmed, so i could text her and say 'hey did you put me down for that shift?'
if she writes back 'yeh' or such like then i could write back 'well dont forget you owe me a drink for doing you the favour, i think im free next week il check and let you know...maybe'


What do you think?

or i could ask her to the gym next week?

I think women that age respond well to confusion. By that I mean send her two different messages. Flirt with her, and then pull away. Let her see you flirt with other girls. You need to get her guessing about whether you like her or not. This will make her flirt with you to find out if you like her.

You seem to be preoccupied at deciphering her every move; you wonder if everything is an ioi. Stop thinking of every little thing as an IOI. Stop thinking of anything as an IOI. You need to start making a move on her first, then look for ioi's. Not look for ioi's then make a move. If you wait for her cue, you are playing into her frame and thus chasing her.

This sounds like the type of girl that gets guys to chase her so you need to make her chase you. As for the number thing, that sounds like it really was to give you shifts, but who knows. But you have her number so text/call her and say whats up. Get her used to talking to you outside a work setting.

But whatever you do, don't chase her. You are 7 years older than her...from a woman's perspective, it would look extra bad to see you chase her.

No balls no glory my friend, I don't care if you have to show her some furniture you made or tell her that she has to buy the most experienced guy a drink cos it's a tradition or such but if you don't act before she goes to uni you'll hit yourself afterwards (what's the worst thing that could happen if you put it like that?). There is no point in all the gaming if you ain't gonna pull the trigger (she might even wonder why you haven't already done it). Oh and if she says no tell her something like "no shift changing for you anymore (go ask the other guys to kiss your ass)". All this has to be done with a lot of confidence. Remember: You call the shots! Now pick up your balls!

Wow some great advice, thanks so much you lot.

When you say make a move do you mean wait till its me and her and just go in for a kiss???

I text her about a shift lastnight that im doing for her and she hasnt replied yet, should i just not text her again or call her?

The IOI thing i dont understand, you say that i should make a move first, but isnt the whole point of IOI's to determine if she likes me or not, if i make a move and get blown off then she will tell everyone at work and that might look bad on me!, should i just try and get her out of work?

So the plan is:

when i work with her next is to tease her abit and say, 'hey when you taking me out for a drink then for doing your shift'?

If i find myself in a situation where its just me and her il make move on her.

Another question do i befriend her on facebook?

Thanks for all your help
great place to be

Maybe turn that around on her: text her and say "by the way you better hurry up and ask me out otherwise it'l be too late and you'l always wonder what you missed out on "

You don't wait for IOI's, you assume attraction because you hold the frame. if you wait around for her to give you clues, that gives her the frame. You can't be in charge if you are waiting around on her IOI's. You have to know that you are hot and know that every girl wants you. It may sound a little egotistical, but if you don't think that you are hot and that every girl wants to be with you, then why should any girl view you that way? It's just inner game.

Exactly

For now keep teasing her (maybe some negging will help too), you keep the frame and don't go kissing her ass like the others.

Then set up a date (not too obvious) and try to see what she's all about, what else has she got besides her looks (do not tell her how beautiful she is).

Tease her (might even need some negging (not insulting) to lower her value depending on what her attitude is like), get more comfort!(what are her hobbies, what does she like about them, if you want to you can even throw in some routines.... that kind of stuff) , and try to get some light kino.

Also important is to look if she's reacting well to what you're doing so that you see if you can escalate.

It's not a good idea to just go up and kiss her (not at the moment because it seems that you need some more comfort).

Relax man, you got it

UPDATE*****************

She text me today (2 days later), Il tell you what i sent and then what she sent back, and help me decide what or if i should reply!

Me: Hey bossy, did you put that shift on the system that im doing for you?

Her:Bossy?am just showing you the way so you dont get laughed at. i havent yet but i will x

So what do i make of that!, shes trying to tease me now!


Also im thinking of buying student houses to rent out, so i was going to tell her this and say something like 'im looking a buying a student let, where you are and wouldnt mind checking yours out?' (but with this does it demonstrate higher value or make it sound like im bragging, which we all know is a turn off for women)


Thanks guys

Don't respond right away (you're a busy man), she made you wait.

Ok, make it clear that YOU're in charge, you're not just gonna change shifts with her without anything in return like the others.

"Don't worry, I don't get laughed at, I make the rules " and then mention that you aren't doing it for nothing (that you are expensive). Something like that (you still have to make your own version out of it). Make it funny.

Ok im not sure if i should call or text, its easier to text, but would it be better to call, show im not afraid of her??

I have a text ready to send, im gonna wait abit though, what do you think?

(following on from')
me: 'hey bossy, have you put that shift in the system that im doing for you?'

her:'bossy? im only showing you the way so no one laughs at you'

(text i havent sent yet, but ready to)

me: me get laughed at? im still laughing at getting one over you (i wet her at work)
and getting you wet at work, has ya sock dried out yet?, you got to admit i got you good. Dont forget you owe me for doing your shift, if i get time i will give you a buzz next week?

Should i send this or not?

How did u go with this mate?

Probably too late now but NO, I dont think u should send that text. You need to dictate the terms and shouldn't ask her if its alrite to call her..

me: 'hey bossy, have you put that shift in the system that im doing for you?'

her:'bossy? im only showing you the way so no one laughs at you'

I would send this text or similar in return -

Me: Ahh I see, its 'monkey see monkey do'. I think before you show me how to do anything, you need to work on keeping my attention on you long enough first

And I also don't think you make it out that you're doing her shift so easy for her. You need to make her work for it, meaning just cos she asks, doesnt mean you say yes straight away. This way, she will see that your not like all the other subservient guys that are at her beck and call.

What's the situation now?

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UPDATE.................................

Ok guys, heres the situation.

Been texting a little bit, and met here after work yesterday, i tried to get her to meet me at a pub, but she didnt have her car (doh), so i met her when she finished and was ready to make a move, as shes been flirting a little, saying things like 'if i didnt know you better id show you my white bits' and things like making up nicknames for me, anyway going back to me making a move i was ready to go for it and kiss her, but her bf or ex-bf was working very close by and she said he could be watching us, so i said 'meet me tomorrow for a drink you owe me' she said 'maybe', but the day we were suposed to meet i couldnt make it so i text her but i didnt appolagise, i sent
'cant meet you later, sum tennents av decided to stop paying me rent so iv got to go to liverpool to sort it!, not sure when il be back '
So thats where iam now!

Heres what iv just done,
Ok i tried to call her twice (she never picked up), im not going to call her anymore, dont think i should text as it might seem like im chasing her to much!, but i was thinking of a text i could send her, i was thinking of saying 'i know why you are ressisting', but havnt sent it yet, what should i do?



im on shift with her for 4 days next week, but didnt want to wait that long as im almost 110% sure she likes me, but think shes waiting for me to make the move, sometimes i text her and i get no reply or she takes ages to write back, so im thinking calling her is the best thing to do,
But i dont want to keep asking her out and act desperate, but really want to meet her so i can make my move!

Any thoughts what i can do?, or should i wait till im at work again, ignore her abit, but when its just us 2 make a move?, should i ask her out again or not or phone her at night and get her to meet me?



Thanks guys