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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:32 pm 
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This has properly been covered before but I did do a search and didn't find anything on it.

ok your in set you run some game and you ask the girls if they want to come meet your friends, they say no were fine here, what does this mean and what do I need to do to prevent this?

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This has properly been covered before but I did do a search and didn't find anything on it.

ok your in set you run some game and you ask the girls if they want to come meet your friends, they say no were fine here, what does this mean and what do I need to do to prevent this?

Thanks

I made this video a while back about this. I do hope it helps.

The password is "PMZ" in capitol letters to watch the video.

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<a href="http://vimeo.com/3519272">PMZ Move & Bounce</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/jsmoothdating">Jon </a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.

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Cool stuff , most of it is common sense. So basically I was in a 2 set for about 5 minutes and got the move , but as we went over to my friends (4 guys) there energy was alot lower then ours , I tryed to intruduce them but even on the first guy there faces had that weird look on them,carryed on by intruducing the over 3 and there faces just got worse then the girl coding begain and they just got up and left.


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Cool stuff , most of it is common sense. So basically I was in a 2 set for about 5 minutes and got the move , but as we went over to my friends (4 guys) there energy was alot lower then ours , I tryed to intruduce them but even on the first guy there faces had that weird look on them,carryed on by intruducing the over 3 and there faces just got worse then the girl coding begain and they just got up and left.
That makes it tough if the energy levels aren't there. Anytime your energy level is lower than the girls you are going to get blown off because you aren't contributing to their good time, we are taking away from it. Next time instead of moving them over to introduce them to your friends maybe merge sets if your friends don't have the energy level.

Plus, I don't know about you but after my hard work in opening and getting a good set going. I'm not going to take them back to a bunch of guys who are likely to goof things up. I understand they might be good friends but... let them fend for themselves. There are other sets in the venue they could open just as easily. Plus, when you do that the girls are realizing you're just picking them up for your friends...you're better off staying in there on your own.

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I agree with most things if not everything you said, and the guys was low energy.I would have liked to sean what it had been like if I had a mixed set of friends with low energy.Anyhow that was my first moved set , since having an understanding of game.I feel that looking back that I could have venue changed instead of moving the set but didn't go for it, I remember thinking at the time get the little step and there be more recpective to the bigger step, after all I had only been in set for like 5 minutes, the move or the venue change just felt like the next thing to do and either one would have been fine by me .

ha they was all excited about going to met my so called friends and when they did there faces just droped lol

merge sets? will you explain jon ?


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I agree with most things if not everything you said, and the guys was low energy.I would have liked to sean what it had been like if I had a mixed set of friends with low energy.Anyhow that was my first moved set , since having an understanding of game.I feel that looking back that I could have venue changed instead of moving the set but didn't go for it, I remember thinking at the time get the little step and there be more recpective to the bigger step, after all I had only been in set for like 5 minutes, the move or the venue change just felt like the next thing to do and either one would have been fine by me .

ha they was all excited about going to met my so called friends and when they did there faces just droped lol

merge sets? will you explain jon ?
As you go from set to set opening people it's easy to start combining groups by introducing people and using existing conversational threads.

Let's say I open up a 3 set of girls talk to them for a while. Then roll off to talk to a 2 set of women. If you're using an opinion opener for example and one group gives you side A of the opinion and the other group gives you side B. I may say okay come with me a second. Introduce them all really quick then say "Okay you girls say that (side A) and you all say (side B) so which one is right? I'm not trying to put you on the spot but just figure this out." Once you started the conversation between the two groups you just have to continue for about 5-10 min and the groups have merged. Now you have a 5 set! :)

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haha you mix the blue and the brown to gether you make? haha
since i've been practicing game , it's true what other gurus say your like a mad scientist putting together all theses peaces of the puzzle with the end goal in mind of getting laid and becoming a better person.

Merging sets sounds like a good part of game so I can use it say for example if I ever go out sarging alone , I surpose this can be used on girls and guys , you merge a set and make it a safe zone , then your free to go of and sarg other girls , and come back with your new moved set, Plus you can actually bring them back to a mixed group of cool energy people , and want be posting back up this sticking point haha


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