Ok, so I've blown out 3 oportunities in the past week because of my inability to sexually escalate/go for the kiss .... I don't even remeber 1 time when I went for the kiss sober ... that's how bad this situation is.

I would like to find out more about how to turn things sexual and maybe someone can explain all about 'fool's mate' ... I haven't found a post that goes into it.

I've read about trianglar gazing and everythink but I can't just transition from talking about whatever random thing into the kiss ... or can I ?

You're thinking tooooo much.

What I do is simply (its natural for me, I do it even drunked) look at her eyes, and subtly approaching my lips on her, she will kiss you if she wants. YOU need to do it, just a ugly girl will do the first move.

I almost every time can kiss her, cause I always look for the right signs and cues meaning "GO". Do the same and you will get the same results.

- Fu$$

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Do the whole playful hair smelling thing. If she lets you, that's the 1st green light.

From here I usually pull back and pretend I have something on my mind and make some comment to that effect; which makes them ask, "What, what?!" Tell them their hair smell reminds you of something but don't tell them what...just make sure you go in for that 2nd sniff.

The 2'nd sniff should be the hair near her cheek / ear so that your nose gently brushes her cheek. At this point I usually make a playful comment on how cold their cheek feels on my nose and see if their nose feels as cold.

Brush her nose with yours gently a couple of times. Again if she lets you do all this you're very much in. Make some comment about how cute their nose is or something complimentary and while you're in the close proximity of her face move in...

Never let the kiss be so predictable, girls see the first kiss as something *magic*.

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Nothing great will ever be achieved without great men, and men are great only if they are determined to be so.
- Charles de Gaulle

It's never too late to be who you might have been.
- George Eliot

Suppose kino is the best way?

Sadly this is something I need help with, so pretty much a bump

Yeah I guess all I can do is go out there and get comfortable beeing the touchy guy alcohol helps me alot though .. and I realize that alcohol just helps me release what I already have in me, I do, but I think I'm just looking for a quick way out of this ... aren't we all? ... so, wish me luck, I have 5 days to get better at this so when I get to London I'll be a better me [it's nice when you have a time frame, it makes you really want to improve and reach your goal]
I already see alot of improvement in myself, I've become more sociable, talk more, kino more, I acually notice the small things like her reacting to my body language, those subtle IOIs and know what to do next and things like that but I just need to get comfortable taking each step ... So thanks guys for all your advice and hope to hear more of it

Sexual escalation is my plus point since I had been in a relations. I would say go the Hitch way, you go 90% and let her come to you 10%.

Well yeah, I've been in relationships before to, I don't have trouble escalating things in bed, I just have a hard time kissing the girl, I'm afraid of beeing shot down, after the kiss it's all natural for me ... so for now all I'm focusing on is kissing a lot of girls.

I think you all over-think things way too much.

A kiss is usually really easy to get, say something along the lines of "Are you adventurous?" if she says yes, then go for the kiss. There is not much more about it, so don't make such a big deal of it. It's the girls that say it's like magic, not us:)

- Exerio

If you go in for a kiss and it was too soon, most girls won't mind that much unless they aren't attracted to you. Women are a little odd about kissing. Sometimes if you kiss them and they didn't want to be kissed so soon, it puts them in the mood for kissing. Girls don't mind getting kissed by guys who they plan to eventually kiss anyways, they may think it was odd, but they probably aren't going to slap you or anything like that. Usually they laugh about it and say something like "where did that come from" or "that was unexpected". Women aren't as rude as you probably perceive them to be, and they enjoy being kiss much more than you realize.