wen ur at reli loud clubs hw do u work around the noise. When i used to go out sarging and drink sometimes i couldnt make out what the girl was saying even shouting in ur ear lol. Now wen i go out sober its still hard to talk should you just keep the topics short in these sort of places. The smoking areas seem a good place to talk to women but i dont smoke.

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I'm no expert, but I figure if you can fight with the noise long enough to hook the set, you can use the noise as an excuse to isolate them to a quieter area, and you can work on your set there. After a bit more talking in the quieter area, just move with your target to a different area. And you're in the clear.

I find it a real bitch to open in a loud club(so I tend to stick to the smaller quiter places).....but there are ways around it.

Firstly good body language will help massivly(inner game), it gets you noticed:-) But mainly I will make a comment to her/them just loud enough for her to know im talking to her but not loud enough for her to hear it fully(dosnt always work, but more often than not if you have great inner game i expect it will almost always work) when she asks you to repeat yourself you have your first opportuntiy for esculation, gently pull her over to you - so she is leaning in to you not the other way around - (this is the first hoop, she is following what you want from her) generally she will let you keep your hand on her as you talk, providing its only light and your coming across as friendly and not creepy. Get her to to repeat herself before you do
IE:
YOU: "say that again!!!"
HER: "I said what did you say"

(this is hoop 2) then start talking. once comfort has being created then isolate her or the full group! and keep giving her the hoops to jump through and reward her accordingly:-)

Hope that has helped.

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tony that is awesome. Theres a bar in town that I won't go to because it's so loud (even though HBs everywhere). Last time I went I was on the floor, negged 2 set with body lingo and had a good approach but when I tried to talk no dice because I couldn't hear and I didn't think just to move the set. hooping girls is one of my favorite things to do lately too, they follow directions as long as you have strong rapport it's amazing.

where on her body do you pull her closer to you? like put ur arm around her shoulder?

Its a matter of what your comfortable doing...if your uncomfortable it will be so obvious she will sence it then it will feel creepy. I usually go for the back of the shoulder furthest away from me or between the shoulder blades or if infront (which is rare) guide her in with a gentle grasp - and I mean gentle - of her wrists or elbow.


BTW if you make a gentle touch of her elbow before you do anything else even talk to her (some call it a pre-opener) she will be more receptive to you, some pshchology thing. But this is best used from a side approach or rear if you really must....although its suggested you never approach from the rear.

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