one big sticking point that i seem to be having is # closing which is funny cause i dont have any problem k closing these same girls. Does anyone know why the hell it would be easier to kclose than number close. Im thinking im not dong a good job in A3 or that she feels guilty and the anti slut defense comes in.

Have you even tried?

"It was nice talking to you, give me your number and we'll catch up later."

Sometimes kiss closing actually is easier than number closing during night game, if they just wanna have some fun and don't want any kind of follow-up. If you're consistently failing to number close though, that might be a prob.

Day / Night / Club Game ?

The girls are probarly not interested and are only looking for some fun!

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I think neither one is harder than the other, it just depends on what you say and do when you are in a set. I guess a k-close is more of a no-strings-attached fun though. With a number close, that means you most likely will try to see her again and she may not be looking for a follow up.

I think neither one is harder than the other, it just depends on what you say and do when you are in a set. I guess a k-close is more of a no-strings-attached fun though. With a number close, that means you most likely will try to see her again and she may not be looking for a follow up.

I invited an almost sure fire # close method

Before i tell you that

did you do thing things in common one?
like ohh you like skiing so do i we should go up sometimes soon
Whats you #.
Ive been doing that all over the place recently.

The surefire one is this
pat your pockets
Me- Hey do you have the time
She pulls out her phone
Her- sure its ---
Me- Can you do me a big favor? i lost my phone could you call it for me?

Only a complete bitch would deny that one. So your set wait a couple mins til she leave
send her a txt - oh thanks i you help me find my phone it turned out it was- in the bathroom and after it you hung up someone found it, id love to repay you we should hang out sometime
or some garbage like that

Thanks for all the responses. This pretty much happens to me during night game. Since i go by the rule of not asking for the number it can be hard to figure out how to go about getting it. I think that you guys are correct in the fact that i play the whole have fun thing but cant get them intrested in any kind of follow up. Am i just coming off as the good time party guy to much?
Oh i really like the whole call my phone thing that sounds like it would work awesome. Ill have to try that.