Hay guys.

My personal approach to sargeing & my general game is to act like the 10, to have very high value & ooze cocky comedy.

There's only one type of girl I struggle to put my game on, and that's what I have come to call my kryptonite...

And this type is the rare kinda of girl that spent her childhood/teenage years as a "Tom Boy" (The boyish girls) but one day usually around 17/18 they suddenly become a super HB.

There use to being around Alpha males, use to natural Negs from hanging around with mainly boys and they have no ego to bring down!

Any advice/tips/pointers would be so appreciated!

thanks guys, Lovable-Rouge

You have trouble because you are looking for things that are not there...

If she is used to be around alphamales and does not have an ego to take down, why would you wanna do that?

Forget the normal gamestructure. When we learn the normal game we get a structure that negates all the shit a woman can throw at us. If for some reason the woman do not do that we feel lost because we cannot identify the game structure anymore. Well, time to rethink, maybe you do not have to neg all targets, maybe you do not need to build comfort equally strong with all targets, maybe timeconstraints are not required. If you have a girl who is used to be around guys, just be grateful! You can treat her like a guy and guys are quite easy to attract. Just be the exception to the rule! IOI her for her personality etc. Really talk to her, find out if you have something in common...

^Well said. Also calibrate by seeing what works for her. Negs don't work for all girls. Try an IOI or SOI then see her response. If it is positive leave it at that and use more in the future, if not, or if you seem needy, just finish it with a neg or push pull. I.e. "Hmm, I kinda like you, you seem really laid back and i like laid back girls.......but you seem a bit weird for me though".

You have to be dynamic. C&F and alpha isn't always god. I'm still trying to figure out HB9.5 who seems to freeze me out if I go alpha/DHV (and do it well). She seems to appreciate losers. Weird right? Every girl's different.

Best thing to try with this type of girl is AFC. TO me afc is a tactic, used only in small doses and at the right time. What i mean specifically is try going 'nice guy' on her. Be genuine and genuine and genuine. If you find this is not working or it is friendzoning you, you can easily just go back to normal game.

Beat around the bush until you find something that works. Also, KINO ESCALATE. When she responds well to your kino, you can try and remember that response and see when she gives similar responses to other things you do. THen you know thsoe things you do are good.

There is no substitute for kino. So that's one thing you should keep doing.

Hope this helps.