"I'm saving myself for marriage."

This seems to be a popular thing amongst girls my age and creates the ultimate bitch shield. No matter how strong your game is the best you can hope for is a quick peck on the lips. I've experienced how to get past "I have a boyfriend" and other anti-slut defenses but this seems so much bigger.

Opinions?

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I found this whilst gaming American girls, the way I got round it was just keep boosting the buying temp. I would love to see a graph of where sexual desire overtakes morals in a woman. Basically make yourself irresistible and she will initiate. Although it should be taken into account I lived with this american girl and so gamed her constantly for a few months.

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^Yeah he's right. Girls think with their pussy. If it's not wet, they don't want you. If it is, you're in.

You're probably initiating too early, or kino-escalating too far. If they really are like that though, you'll need some hardcore NLP and reframing. I'd start by asking her why that is so. She may say something like -

"Because after marriage the guy is more committed"

You - "And why is that?"

Her - "I don't know it's just..."

You - "And how does that make you feel when this guy (self-point) is more committed?"

Her - "Great, really comfortable" (anchor this state)

You - "Can you think of a time when you felt like that? I bet you couldn't!"

Her - "Yeah....yeah kind of...oh yeah! There was that time..." (anchor again, use sliding anchor or stack the anchor)

You - "Awesome. This must be an incredibly amazing feeling. You know I think exactly the same thing. I'd never do anything with anyone even until after marriage, I'd wait until I feel really comfortable. But you like me, I think a part of you could imagine a time when you would really go for it with a guy who you feel really comfortable with, who is more committed (self point and FIRE ANCHOR).

Then smile innocently and affectionately, carry on as normal and close. Maybe throw in a false disqulifier somewhere.

That above is a very basic outline of a possible NLP routine, kinda OMS style. I just wrote it off the top of my head, so you'll need to improve on it. Although that would work pretty well. I'm quite excited already!

This is really all a matter of what age group youre working with (all of these are generalizations based on past experiance)
Highschool- Your mind changes soooo many times in highschool, the biggest straight laced holy roller will end up being a stoner. The biggest slut ends up married and preaching the gospel by sophmore year in college. If she says shes saving herself, shes just saving herself for a guy that can heat her up until she cant stand it. Shes young and its scary. Hang on if you feel like it im sure youll get it soon if you know what youre doing.
Freshman year college- pretty much the same deal as highschool, just doesnt know who she is yet, prolly will be getting gang banged by frat dudes around mid sophmore year. Gotta sow those wild oats sometime right?
Senior in college- Lost cause, probably a freak anyway. Not fun to talk to or hang out with. Waste of your time.
Any time after college- I work with this woman at my resturant. Shes like 45 and waiting for marraige... its never going to happen. Shes gross, obnoxious, overly religious, blah blah. If you havent had sex before the end of college youre going to be a very weird adult.

Again, all of this is generalizing. I dont personally mess around with virgins. I feel too much responcibility for them, Id rather someone else eat that boring first couple times so i dont have to. Highschool to freshman year is the only time these girls are acceptable in my opinion.

It comes down to advanced frame control. I could break down exactly how to get around this but I promised AFC Adam I wouldn't teach or talk about frame control at such an advanced level, which is what is needed to explain how to do this, since it could really be misused.

However keep the mentality of "change her mind not her mood", "Listen to her actions not her words", and experiment and try cracking it for practice.

Also just really look into frame control and try what you find out.

Sorry bro, hope this helped a little though

Psych

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