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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:50 am 
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so i seem to suffer from not being able to carry on conversations. Even sometimes around my friends, i seem to just die out

I believe the main problem is due to the fact that I think "i am going to run out of stuff soon" or "this isnt interesting, and i need something better"

what the hell do people talk about for 10+ minutes? seems forever for me

I need to improve that part of my game as it suffers the most and affects my whole game i think

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hey man, keeping a conversation going is a skill some get naturally and some learn. In essence u shouldn't be having that mind set. I mean if u keep thinking about what am you're going to say, ur just gunna freeze up. dont rely too much on the canned material because that is just a foundation for a conversation. Get in field more and just stay in a talkative mood ...doesn't matter about what u talk about. i mean would u rather be around a person who cant keep a conversation going..or someone who would bring up the most random topics


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after she says something what ya gota do is "cherry pick" the conversation. meaning you pick out an important word from her sentence and talk about it. for example:
ask something about HERSELF first so that she will have something meaningful to say:
Me: how do u feel when someone looks at you and you look back and then you cant stop looking at them over and over again?
girl: omg i feel so addicted to looking that way
then you cherrypick the word "addicted" and relate it to the subject like "its also addicting to look at somebody with a unique voice"
this should help


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:08 pm 
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man just keep in the right mentalty and you will do fine.plus it doesnt hurt to take some improv comedy classes or try some spontanous conversion topics instead of relying on canned matrial p.s i know this has nothing to do with the subject but good advice les pual

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talk about stuff that you are interested in unless its some boring shit like what lvl you are in World of Warcraft and stuff like that. If you find the shit interesting so will she, but you will have to use some common sense

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I have a very similar problem, mine isn't really running out of material, but threading. Most of the convos I have have the akward silences between watever we talk about. This mostly happens after 10 minutes or so. I always try to put somthing in my opener that I can thread to, but if that doesn't work then when ever I transition it feels random and very akward.


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4 words for all of you :- "Be a good listener." Once you master that...you yourself can carry on the convo as the lady will give you the leads as to what to say next... For example :
You:So,how was your day?
HB:nothing much...my car got a flat tyre today so I had to walk home.
AFC:(thinks what to say next) so do u like cheese?
HB: huh? (looks bored)
PUA : lol the tires seem to fall flat every time they see you...:)
HB: lol yeah...i hate them for that.
and u carry on...get it?

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I think so, the same as the cherry pick that bandbadboy was talking about correct?


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:43 pm 
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yes. :)

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The "cherry pick" (also called relating) mixed in with stuff you like to talk about. Now don't bore her with football or something, but something related to your life.

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I make sure I've seen the news or read a paper before I go out. Then, if you run out of things to say, you can just pull something out thats was on the news.
Chances are, she's hurd about it 2 and will relate and help get the convo moving again. Dont maker the subject to depressing though.


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if u can't think of anything...i have noticed Paris hilton works best in all situations...provided the girl is sane...lol :)

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To keep the convo going?

I just try to begin by leading the convo myself (Mystery always talks about giving/offering value, and giving/offering threads instead of waiting for the girl to initiate it).... From then on, actually get out of the mindset of routines, and just have a normal conversation from the responses she provides... If you actually listen and stop gawking at her breasts :P, you will always find summin to riff on..... Especially if you're past the attraction stage, know when to turn things down ie turn off your game and just be yourself during the conversation.

Hope this helps,

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i had that problem, and my weaknesses were that i would think that what i had to say was too stupid and also that i wasn't able to multi thread really well.

I got out of this problem when i realised that i could say alot of things and other people would just continue the conversation with their own piece about what i say and then i could continue on, etc. Cherry picking.

Also i got better at multi-threading, like instead of finishing a story i start another one, and another one, then finish the 1st one and continuing the rest as more sprouts from them. At the end i usually have even more to talk about because i have so many branches open that i didn't even finish. It really feels like we have too much to talk about and that we connect very well.

So part of the cure i would say is to find out that if you get into that talkative mood and you say whatever comes to mind, it usually gives birth to more conversation : "the 1st 3 seconds buys the next 15 which buys the next 5 mins and then the next hour". Then when you get comfortable just speaking your mind, calibrate to find out what is interesting and what you should really not say. Then learn to multi-thread.

There's more ways out there and more techniques, but that's how i did it, and how far i am ... so far.


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so i seem to suffer from not being able to carry on conversations. Even sometimes around my friends, i seem to just die out

I believe the main problem is due to the fact that I think "i am going to run out of stuff soon" or "this isnt interesting, and i need something better"

what the hell do people talk about for 10+ minutes? seems forever for me

I need to improve that part of my game as it suffers the most and affects my whole game i think
I've just been reading a book written by a woman - "Understanding women" by Romy Miller and I think (after stipping away any lingering feminazi elements!) she has some very useful stuff to say particularly relating to your above dilemma. Basically, the key to successful conversations with women, according to her, is to get them nattering on about themselves. Women blabbering on and about themselves to boot is a match made in heaven.So, dont be afraid to zip it and let her do the talking. Just be genuinely interested in her and be a good listener. Listen well and hear her moaning turn into moans... :wink:


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