This has been happening for too long. Girls I do not like think I'm a really chill guy and talk to me a lot. It's great to have friends but I cannot seem to get into deep conversation with girls I actually like. Mainly because I never seem to get the chance. Any tips?

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Thanks Old Sport...

Do you approach girls you like differently than girls you don't? What do you consider to be girls you like?

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Game doesn't exist.

No I don't approach girls who I like differently. I just approach girls I like less frequently. Girls I like would be anywhere in the range of (9-10)

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Thanks Old Sport...

Well, usually at that age they haven't developed intellectually enough to hold meaningful conversations. I say try gaming girls over the legal age

You know what I meant. But nice catch lol.

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Thanks Old Sport...

You aren't in clubs trying to hold deep philosophical conversations are you?

You could always just force the issue. There are ways to link anything into any topics you want.

A girl mentions shoes I acknowledge her comment then I talk about the shoe style of Issac Newton, she responds with something along my lines, and then I start talking about Issac Newtons contributions to the world of physics.

The problem is these conversational topics are not interesting to most women. I Get Bored Talking to Women

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

No it's not that I'm trying to talk about what contributed to the fall of the Roman Empire. But rather I never get to use my really good seduction on them. Almost like it is hard for me to transition to that type of conversation.

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Thanks Old Sport...

Besides the transition style I just told you about, you can use transitional phrases.

Anyway,
Oh, while I have you here,
Oh, that reminds me,
Hey, while were talking,
Ok, this is totally random, but...

You get the point.

I don't know your style of game and what you are trying to get into. Would you be kind enough to explain your conversation in detail if I haven't helped you sufficiently yet?

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

Thanks for the help. I never thought of using transitional phrases because I usually just let the convo flow. Are you saying I should control the convo more?

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Thanks Old Sport...

Do what ever makes you feel most comfortable. I usually talk naturally and let the conversation flow in the direction I want it to go hitting a few land marks along the way to what I want.

You know, instead of leaving everything t totally to random chance.

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"Keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HccL8jUIIWU - Adoration of the Magi Lupe Fiasco

Thanks for the help.

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Thanks Old Sport...

Today I was going through a lot of fluff talk with a gamer girl, and it wasn't really going anywhere. i finally got the idea to ask her "Hey, what was your FAVOURITE game growing up as a kid?" Her face instantly lit up, and we were talking about super mario and spongebob and it was just a really fun thing.

Try something similar maybe?

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I succeed where others fail, purely because the fire inside burns brighter than the fire around me.

In order to speak of depth, you must first have depth.

Just looking at your posts, it's safe to assume you arent quite there yet, and having deeper conversations is just a method or tactic for you. See:

"I just approach girls I like less frequently. Girls I like would be anywhere in the range of (9-10)"

Why don't you speak to the women you want? Also, who are these '9-10's you speak of, other than a means to enhance your own ego?

"But rather I never get to use my really good seduction on them. Almost like it is hard for me to transition to that type of conversation."

Use your seduction? You either are seductive or you arent, it isnt something you use, it's something you are.

"Thanks for the help. I never thought of using transitional phrases because I usually just let the convo flow. Are you saying I should control the convo more?"

Seduction is a dance, a flow. How can you control a flow?

I know that right now, in your mind, you are violently opposing this, thinking "who is that asshole to call me out?" And I probably deserve it, but I assure you, you need to hear it.

The fact is that if you truly want to have deeper conversations with someone, really connect with someone almost spiritually, you have to make the conscious decision to do so.

That's the way it happened for me anyway. I realized life is too short to have superficial conversations, and I wouldn't put up with it. So, I opened myself up, and every time I spoke to a woman, I asked about her passions, her dreams, her hopes and her fears. Women open up to me the way they do because I first open myself up - I dont try to control anything, I dont try to impose myself on anyone. I'm completely free, open and sincere, but solid, firm, masculine and strong.

"love is three quarters curiosity" - Casanova.

I have deep spiritual conversations in clubs. I have deep spiritual conversations at beach parties. I have deep spiritual conversations on subways, buses, and on my way to the gym. It doesnt matter to me.

Sincerity is what will get you the results you're looking for.
Everything else is just a tactic, tainted and see-through.

To your success,
Mack

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Some good advice here. However, but how do you know that a deep connection is what you lack? Let me ask you this. Are you competent with your escalation?

You don't need a deep connection for seduction. And in my opinion it's more trouble than it's worth. You need to work on attraction more so.

If you're not physically escalating a deep connection or not, is still friends zone.

Physical escalation is an attractive move for a guy. It also gets you to the next step towards the goal.

If you still think a deep connection is what you need. It really comes easy after sex and you're in pillow talk mode.

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You're putting the cart before the horse. Fuck girls really good and they'll talk in depth endlessly while rubbing your cock (so it gets hard again) even when you snore.

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