I go on nights out and successfully attract women and talk to them make out with them move to different places in the club.. I have this under the thumb now.

however, they always end up saying, quite unprovoked, 'im not going home with you'. 'im not going to have sex with you'.

I do not know what to do at this point and they end up leaving with their friends.
this has happened so many times.

I have tried to cover it up with plausible deniability such as 'ive never been to 'so and so accommodation' (we're usually in university halls) but they dont buy it
I have tried saying 'ok and not caring and just enjoying the moments until then' but they dont bite back

Any tips on how to up your game when they say 'im not going home with you/having sex with you'??


Also I hear a lot about people saying 'dude shes gagging for it' but actually, i find it really difficult to get over this obstacle!! im afraid to say its not that easy in the real world. the anti-slut defence is a challenge.

I know someone out there has experienced this and has an answer.

thank you

Sounds to me you might be going too indirect.

If you are more direct from the beginning then that sets a different precedence. You're being more upfront and the women don't feel like they're being tricked into something.

I should also prescribe lowering ASD during mid-game. You can do this by talking about your feminist sex-positive views and how it's wrong for the patriarchy to sexually oppress women, sexual double standards, etc. Your frame of "sex is a normal thing and women shouldn't be judged for having sex" must be strong.

Honestly sounds like you may not have enough comfort built. Also, there are tons of girls who won't be willing to have sex that night - but need a second (and sometimes third) date. There's no need to rush - relax, show that you're not after her JUST for sex, show genuine interest, and she if SHE is interested then she will WANT to do it.

Hey brother,

I used to get so worried about that stuff at first until i saw it for what it was.

She needs it. Right there and then, its because she wants to have the resistance on record - she didn't give it up too easily. From a larger standpoint though - she needs her romantic story.

Think 50 shades of grey. Not SnM stuff you perv, I'm talking about the general ebb and flow of the book. The bigger picture. Little girl meets guy who is attractive but mysterious. He couldn't possibly like her but WHATS THIS! he DOES like her. Does she like him? Oh I dont know, Im scared, but hes so hot. Okay she lets her guard down, he wants her but all of a sudden he gets cold and turns off, she worries, she wonders. She keeps her distance, does he really care? She gets mad. He used me, he never cared! Then suddenly he shows up at her door with flowers... HE DOES CARE! OMG OMG OMG

I never read it as you can probably tell but you get the point because it's the same story EVERYWHERE.

She needs that! When I realized it it became so fun. It was this big game of seduction, this beautiful dance and eventually she would open up to me. I was always amazed and impressed. It's such a beautiful thing when a woman opens up to you. I don't mean goes home, fucks you, you're both drunk and then bye bye. I mean when you truly experience something together. It will be a night she never forgets.

So to answer your specific predicament - let her have that!

"I'm not having sex with you"
"That's fine" silence.
"I'm not having sex with you"
"ok"
"I'm not having sex with you"
"You're a big girl, do whatever you wanna do"

Give her the space to live out her romantic fantasy. Make space for the seduction to play out the way it should.

Everything will happen naturally and beautifully, I promise.

With love and respect
Mack

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