Hey all

any advice welcome - meeting a girl 7 times fairly relaxed roughly 15hrs of comfort/trust building - Plenty of IOI's text tagging everyday - kino when we meet - great conversation and no fluff keepin actively disinterested! - she's comfortable and is eager to see me - yet she's kinda frigid or so i believe

so - sexual escalation - its bin mostly Kissin and a bit of pettin etc etc - how do i up the escalation without flippin her LMR or ASD!

remember what it was like when you started opening? you had to worry about opening but getting rejected. only when you just went for it and opened did you get beyond that point. If you put off kino escilation to the sexual point due to fear of LMR you will get stuck in the LJBF zone. 15 hours is twice as long as it should be. 7-10 hours average. read up on LMR so you are somewhat prepared but dude, you godda go for it or you'll lose your shot. Agree with her if she says We shouldnt be doing this and keep going. have her light some candles for you so she is helping to set the mood. less resistance that way. remember the freeze out. if she says no and stops you, stop. turn on the lights and commense doing some other activity with her, like chess. dont act mean about it, you want to let her know that you still want to do something with her even if she doesnt want sex. but remember to stop kissing, dont reward bad behavior. stop all sexual behavior. below is a good video by Mystery

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thanx for the reply - the mystery vid was good.
whilst i have had her isolated - ive been sufferin anxiety over escalation to a point - guess am friad to freak her out or whatever
Met up last night for a few drinks at a local bar quiz - was CF all night told a few crazy night stories and push pulled a few times to pique her interest - we kiss closed the night on a lonely street and dropped her home - no invite in as we both had to work early so i froze her out in the car and cut the kiss early and chased her - she was wide mouthed and laughed which i thot was a good alpha display

Next time we're isolated ( hers or my place) should i ramp the kino and go for it? should i use the freeze out if she resists? what should i do if she brickwalls me completely?

i do fear LJBF is loomin large...

SK

Dude, next time just tell her, I'll only go home with you if you promise to feed me. (they always say What?!?!) I'll only go home with you if you promise to feed me. Look I'm hungry, I skipped dinner, what do you got to eat.

if she starts naming off things in your fridge, your good to go


B-SWEET

too slow

you get sexual tension by being just half a step ahead of her

now however you are in her comfort zone and not pushing each other out of it to create the sexual tension

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So my situation is I got this girl who now has twice said she's not ready to go all the way (on dates 2 and 4) and she lets me do all the rest except that she stops me after fingerbanging her saying that she doesn't want to get too horny. And she also hints that maybe we should stop because "maybe we're just tormenting ourselves". I know that she hasn't had sex for a long time (if at all, but I'm assuming she has). My questions are 1. When should I try again, i.e. should I wait until our 2nd date from now? 2. And How should I lead up to the situation differently? If I reach that point again, I'll use the freeze out (wanted to use it last time, but didn't have the willpower).

this tripleR. next time your on a date with her, work the palm reading routine, isolate her somewhere take her hand and say, huh, 5 yrs from now i see you doing my laundry", it's a neg and kinda a time distortion that you guys will be together. then say," alright seriously, ok, this one is in the near future, she'll say what? then you'll say, i see the both of us sharing a kiss." it's soppose to come of sweet, but keep in mind it's a game, then go all the way. it works.

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