This is an issue thats been cropping up and i'm really certain its affecting my game.

I would be in the middle of kissing random girls when they pull away from me.
i cant understand what the hell is going wrong.i always brush my teeth and never eat anything
like chicken tandore or chicken kiev,something that would make my breath smell or stink.
this is a sticking point for me because i wont be able to escalate any further if they break away and leave.is there any guides to kissing or something that i can study to improve? i found some stuff on Askmen but waiting to hear if you guys have any golden advice i can add to my playbook

2 Examples

1: I was in a nightclub and began to make out with a red hot, hottie, 23y with a fantastic ass,i began touching up her back and slowly sliding down towards her ass,began squeezing her ass and then she bit my lip and left


2:This is an odder case,I recently began making out with my best friend,shes small, beautiful thing but when we make out its like i always have to make the first move but the kisses are now only little pecks like you give to your mother,they used to be passionate makeouts

All k-closes ive gotten this year and through-out the past life time,the girl has always pulled away.what am i doing wrong?

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Honestly, my first instinct is that your breath is bad or that you taste bad... Despite the fact you say you haven't eaten anything that would make it so.

If it were just 1 or 2 girls pulling away, then, yeah - maybe it's something else, but since it's consistent, I think it points to a problem with your oral health maybe...

(I'm no doctor... and I'm certainly not saying you're not brushing or whatever... Just trying to give you a constructive opinion)

Yeah, get a checkup with the dentist to make sure you don't have any cavities or whatnot. Cover all your bases.

The other possibility is that you suck at kissing. It's impossible to tell what you're doing wrong from a forum post so it's difficult to point you in the direction you need to go, but I can tell you that I think I got really good at kissing indirectly because I got good at playing music with other people. That really helps you get into the right flow with others.

1. perhaps bad breath but thats pretty easy to check, and solve - carry some decent mints with you (not gum). Flossing and electric toothbrush are good as well and brush your tongue.

2. How long do your makeouts last, how long before they pull away? If they last a long time, the girls may just be pulling away because it is so long.

3. You could be a bad kisser. As a guy you are going to have to make the first move.
Make sure you are standing close to them, face on, place your hand on the back of their neck/ side of the face, lean in and turn you head a little. For the actual kissing part, first press your lips against hers, and do a kissing motion smoothly. Lead her in this. Stick to just lips, no tongue first. Tongue can come later, when things get heavy.

You should lead during this whole time, be smooth (like no jerky movements), and think hot and sexy vibe.

TBH i think your sticking point may solve itself with more experience.

thanks guys for responding,i feel its pointing towards my kissing skill,because i really do clean my mouth,brush and mouth wash,maybe charlesfinley is right and i taste bad.too much a minty flavour or possibly i drink too much alcohol and she can taste it but i remember back when i asked my friend if im a bad kisser and she said bluntly im average..judging from her tone she was trying to obviously conceal the truth

@xZerox the make outs last from anywhere of 5 seconds to 30.i ALWAYS make the move though,i feel like im sorta aggressive towards her

@xzerox,Chief what is this vibe you speak of??is it like a sexy beat as in sound funky music?
also i will try the method of kissing you described.i think my friend is just becoming disinterested in me,god theres so many possibilities of why my kiss encounters end abruptly.

but thank you all for responding,massive help.i just need to visit a dentist and brush my teeth throughly
and learn to kiss in more affectionate way rather than a kino way with touching

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Different girls like to kiss in different ways, there's no blanket way of kissing that makes you awesome. I get compliments from girls on my kissing ability because I do one thing when kissing them... Pay attention.
What I mean is that generally, when you start kissing a girl, let them dictate what kind of kiss it is because some girl don't like using tongues, some love biting, some like it fast and intense, some like slow and passionate. If they like using tongue, they'll shove it in your mouth, if they like biting, they'll bite you; let them tell you what they like then do it. If they aren't giving you any indication (say just kissing you closed mouth and nothing else) try tongue, if they don't reciprocate leave it and try lightly biting their lip. Generally I've found that when you do this, they'll 'tell' you they like it by doing it back to you.

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Make sure you are standing close to them, face on, place your hand on the back of their neck/ side of the face, lean in and turn you head a little.

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ok,i am back from a night out in a club,results night
i found a girl,we K-closed,now i followed xZEROz and musterion advice on how to kiss( lean in,get closer,slow down,bite,etc) and also tried what you guys mentioned on "vibe".While kissing her i thought of a sexy jazz song i heard from years ago. The results were 3 makeouts with this girl and they were all with tongue!

this is where everything gets strange,she was quite happy and giggly when I was talking to her and got her phone number,she made excuses not to hang out with me any more.
she was a HB6.5 and i brushed my teeth thoroughly this time.after i left the club,i glanced at the phone number and it wasnt a real number,i knew because it wasnt a functioning number.i also was talking to her best friend
she was a bit drunk but she told me that the girl only wanted to kiss someone.

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That shit happens man, I've gotten plenty of 'solid' numbers from girls when we've madeout and shit in the club all night and never hear back from them; on the contrary the last date I went on was with a girl who I had a 10-15 minute interaction with and just pecked as we departed, she couldn't even remember what I looked like the next day. Some girls just like making out with random guys on a night out, there's obviously ways your can reduce the chance of a flakey number/fake number but that's another discussion for another time; don't relate your flake rate to your kissing ability.

That said it sounds like you had a better reaction from your perspective so good job, just keep practising feeling that vibe/rhythm more than anything else and you'll get better and better.

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That's basically either her being cocky/funny and playing with you or she's politely telling you you're one of the worst kissers she's ever had in her life. Damn, that's harsh but it's not a big deal! You can learn to kiss properly quite fast.

How do you kiss a girl? Do you massage her tongue with yours or do you do the whole washing machine thing(Just randomly rolling your tongue around in her mouth)? Are you passionate about the kiss? Do you keep your eyes open? Where are your hands at this point?

Quick pointers:
1. Strive to be a passionate kisser.
2. Learn the importance of teasing in between making out with a girl(Neck biting, nibbling the ear, squeezing her side, etc.).
3. Don't be afraid to be a small bit rough.
4. Don't be a gentle kid, be a man. Grab her hair with a hand, massage the back of her neck with your hand and lightly pull her hair back. What drives women nuts is lightly but firmly grabbing the back of their hair while you're massaging their neck as you kiss them then pull her head back so she's looking up toward the sky then go in and bite her neck playfully. Don't give her a hickey!! Just bite and tug. It's really simple and drives women batshit insane.

Don't be afraid to tease her. Once you become good at kissing and know she enjoys it you can control her very easily through teasing. The best tease is just to gently touch your lips to hers and rub them so your lips are barely touching then gently tug at her lower lip with your teeth(Don't be rough or bite down whatsoever!!). Then suck her lower lip or go back to making out with her. When you feel a fire inside you as you're kissing her let go and be more forceful in your kiss. She'll comply and allow you to do whatever you want with her from that point on.

thank you very much to all who responded,this has all been very helpful towards my game
you have given me my corrections and what i need to do to improve.
Thank you all!

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Well when im drunk and girl is too. Our making out looks like i dunno. Two sexy hippos eating from each others mouth

Ever tried using an ice cube? Take a cube of ice and put it in your mouth then kiss her and pass it from your mouth to hers. It's quite tantalising and feels good.