Bio: I am 34, 6'3 Bald, good built and overall decently successful in life. I broke up with my gf whom I almost married last fall and after dealing with my break up for a while and now I am ready to get into the game. I have dated for last few months and have run into some issues:

1. My constant issue is the stage right after the initial pick up be it in person, but mostly on line. I use Match and Tinder. I have a pretty descent sense of humor, which mostly relies on cocky funny where I make fun of the girls a lot. My issue I think is that I don't know when to pull back on making fun of them, or just busting their balls too much. I think this is a fine art that can sometimes back fire since girls tend to be insecure about things more than guys.

2. I have a huge problem trying to find that happy median between being too nice, having a kind of a neutral conversation to the opposite of being cocky, non committal and sometimes too edgy. I ll give a few examples:

Tinder:

I start talking to this girl on Tinder and it started off really great. We were both asking each other questions. Then she started replying less and less transitioning to the one to two three word answers and slowly not asking questions on her end. Next day, I began the conversation by asking her where she was going to take me out on a date. She said She wasn't but she asked me to come over to help her move. I said, haha you wish I am not an orbiter but she can pay me and I'll do it. I told her I am unionized so I take a lot of breakes. She laughed and said she will see if she has the time since she is moving this weekend. I told her sure thing, take your time but with these puppies in my profile picture my Tinder is blowing up. I also kept on joking and said, but take your time I am sure there are a lot of other catches on Tinder.

She then laughed and next day she asked me where I was going. I replied back and told her to get an outfit together for the game. I thought everything was going good within that conversation. Today I asked her how her move was going, she said she wasn't looking forward to it. I then said whats there not to look forward too. Its an opportunity for a new beginning, a new home and a possibility to meet new neighbors. She never replied back.

Do you guys think I did too much edginess? Is there anything you guys would have done differently?

After dating for last few months, I am starting to get a little jaded and not treat every lost interest and rejection as badly as when I was first coming out of my relationship but the fact that most of my interactions end in the same way is really bugging me. I m definitely becoming an AFC again.

I see this problem a lot: Too much emphasis on "gaming" and no emphasis on getting results.

Your goal: Face to face interaction with a girl.

Your actions: Making an excuse as to why you wouldn't.

You could've easily gone to help her with a move but you declined and you were a dick about it. You could've just offered to help after you get breakfast together, or after lunch. You could've offered to help for the bitter end of it and ended the night with her cooking you breakfast.

First date and you're already at her house? or how about you meet in person for a coffee and two days later you're moving the bed you're about to fuck her on.

I once helped a girl move. We hadn't been dating too long and we fucked on every piece of furniture imaginable.

Stop making excuses and start making things happen.

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Thanks homie for the reply. I think you are right about one thing and that is that I think I am too much of a dick. I think I confuse that with being alpha, but there is also a fine line there. Honestly, I think that is one of the biggest things that can get fucked up in the PUA world.

I ended up going out with her, after playing a little hard to get. She ended up being awesome, and we are going on a second date in next few days.

I really needed a analysis but it's not always easy to tell a whole story over one post. I work in a community of very smart alpha males whom are always in a competition with one another and being a dickhead is an accepted personality and I think I just need to tune it down a little. Neging from me can be very overt at times and I just think I need to tone it down. I just fear more than anything looking like a weakling and someone who is boring. Thats where I need the most help.

Thanks for the reply brother.