Ive read a lot of post about LJBF..... seems like a lot of guys are forgetting the basic PUA skills

Getting stuck as this point is aceptable for any AFC...but a PUA, even a recovering AFC...cant make this mistake.

Why do you get LJBF?

There are two basic reasons for a guy getting LJBF.....

Nuber one: Conveying too much interest.

This is what I call being "betrayed by your penis"; you get so atracted to the girl...that you cant just get a hold of yourself...and you IOI her.

Ok...you might be horny and whatever, but as Juggler said once; "Sometimes being a PUA... is to be willing to be alone".

To have value, is to show to the girl that you can walk off any second, and to do so...sometimes you have to actually walk away and be alone.

Number two: Wrong "reading" of a woman's intentions

Remember Mystery's Atraction phase

A1=Open
A2=She showing attraction to you
A3=You showing atraction to the girl

If you arent 100% sure that the girl is attracted to you...dont IOI her.

How do you know if she is attracted to you?

Body language knowledge, and mainly, experience.

If you get LJBF...you were too fast, and/or too blind for the situation.

The solution to LJBF... is to tighten your game... buy some PUA ebooks and materials, sarge a lot, and most important, be more perceptive of things.

When I first sarged....I was really nervous. I took the AFC path to courage: Alcohol.

I did worse than before I knew about PUA techniques.

Why? because I wasnt there...I was not paying attention to the sings, the gestures, and all the little things that happen in a man-woman interaction.

When you get LJBF...dont ask for help, because it is something you have to solve by yourself.....your attitude and your perception, no one can fix your mind but yourself.

could not agree more

Yeah, I don't get LJBFs at all anymore.
Seriously.
Not one in YEARS.

Oh, and that guy who posted above me isn't me, for the record

GREAT post!

I can totally relate to this.
It's an area where my game needs to be fixed.

don't worry so much about being a "friend", friends fuck friends

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What did you do to get out of the friend zone?

you cant, once you are in you are stuck, unless you dont see her for ages and then try again when you see her for the first time. Good post, i think many people skip attraction and go to comfort too, thats what AFCs do, such as listening too much and not controlling the interaction

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If it is not possible to get out of the friend zone, then how does Ross and Mystery do it as both have techniques for turning friends into lovers that I don't fully understand as of yet but I am working on it.

If you find out how these work please pm with them, all i could find was that it was very very hard and so not worth the effort

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I will do that, but at the moment I am just a little busy trying to figure out as to what the hell I am doing wrong and as to what is really holding me back and I am just a little pissed off at myself as I recently saw a girl here in Albuquerque sitting at a table alone in a section of town called Old Town.

She was pretty good looking in my book and there was no reason for me to not approach her and start a conversation with her, but for some reason I did not do that as I froze and I just could not work up the courage to just walk over to her and talk to her and I kind of blame my past for my failure to so as I guess that I am still deathly afraid of being rejected and of making a complete fool out of myself and that bothers me a lot.

Thats just typical AA man, its just that society makes it seem odd to approach random people, you just need someone to force you to go sarge, be it a friend or whatnot but you will get over it.

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I agree to this post... well written and now I exactly know what part I suck at and what problems of my game need to be ironed out...

Thnkx A Lot!!!

Here you go guys...

A guide to getting out of LETS JUST BE FRIENDS ZONE!!!

getting-out-of-lets-just-be-friends-zone--vt20307.html

Thought would share it with you guys here... feel free to PM me if u have any questions...

Tell her the Ross Jeffries' response to the LJBF. If you have the book THE GAME, turn to page 40.

RJ's response, "I don't promise any such thing. Friends don't put each other into boxes like that. The only thing I'll promise is never to do anything unless you and I both feel totally comfortable, willing, and ready."[/quote]