i met this hb8 in class and have always flirted with her
we've hung out a couple of times and everything has always went smooth but my issue was i never escalated beyond flirting,
the first 2 times i hit her up i got her to meet up once just us, second with a friend
the two times i hit her up after that she made excuses that she was busy
i hate seeming needy so after the 2nd time that she said she had plans and didn't try to come up with an alternative i cut her off
before this i would text her maybe once a week and each time to plan to meet up
its been a month and half
last night (she's friends with my sister) my sister hit me up to smoke pot with them (DHV) to them,
when i met up with them she was there and she called me out on the freeze out saying
"oh were not friends anymore,"
i said: why is that?
she said: "you don't call me anymore"
and i said a phone works both ways
and that was that, we all smoked and everything went fine and i dropped them off
also during the freeze out, i ran into her friend on campus which i have won over and all her other friends, said she was talking to hb8 about how they miss me
should i hit her up again after running into her or do i just move on?
btw sorry if this is a long post

Hey man, good freeze out and great answer "Phone works both ways"... you should strike while the iron is hot... call her, it's much easier to set a date as she would have to reject your proposal to your face without having too much time to think of an excuse... take her some place nice for drinks and escalate, escalate, escalate... don't let her get away without at least making out... Good luck and keep us informed...

so i ended up texting her two days later
the convo:
me: hey
hb8: hey
me: wutsup
hb8: going to work. you?
me: where do u work
hb8: (some women retail)
me: great, i was actually looking for a new crop top
hb8: hahahaha funny
me: got any in mind?

no response after that,
i figured i took it too far with the last one, but it seems more like she's just not interested or she would have kept it going,

this was on friday and its now sunday and i haven't talked to her since
do i still just call her and try and set up a date
or is it a lost cause?
thank you in advance!

Yepp - call her and set up a date.

thanks for the responses

will keep u guys updated on how it goes

That's the problem with texting... she can drop it off at anytime without seeming such a big deal for her... if you were talking on the phone, would she have ended the call abruptly like that? I doubt it, so CALL instead of texting and set up a meeting... don't bring up the texting interruption, act like it's no big deal and ignore her rudeness... good luck!

very true, but the problem u run into with calling is that they might not answer, with texting they will eventually reply if they are at all interested,
they both have their pros and cons i guess as with everything,
but going to give the calling a shot this weekend

In short, you like myself are your own worst enemy. You got her out but acted like a bitch by hesitating escalation. It sucks man. I know. I am getting better. At this point, you are being the beta male like Ross from friends. You need to wake up from these boy meets girl stories. Start beasting. If a girl I invite brings her friend, I do a takeaway, shifting my attention to her friend. Subcommunication is everything. The delivery is best indirect. Being single means available.

so true,
i am aware that not escalating the first time fucked shit up quite a bit,
but luckily theres still attraction because we went to school together and being a social guy has my social proof covered,
anyways,
i called her on wednesday to go out at around 6pm but she said she was going to dinner with her older bother and that she would hit me up after and i said ok
she ended up not hitting me up
this was a week and couple of days ago and i haven't hit her up since
do i just next her at this point or do i give it another try?
i only ever hit her up to hang out which i do every month or so (so i haven't come off as needy)
i do go to college with her but almost never run into her on campus
whats the game plan from here?

Close to 'nexting' territory with this girl. Possibly drop in with a text on some exciting shit you're doing; let her know implicitly through this that she is around #50 on your list of priorities. The issue here also is you haven't escalated so from her perspective, she may not be sure if you like her 'that way'. Ideally you eventually get her out 1 on 1 where you can kino / kiss / makeout.

get her 1 on 1 from the group invite?
or a separate date?
or do u mean just let her know what i am doing to dhv?

There is no one size fits all for this kind of stuff and this is a good example of that. For example, usually the advice is "text her for a date asap etc." This particular situation like many needs a bit of finesse due to the events that have occurred between the two of you thus far.

Let her know what you're doing to dhv and then at some point ideally have it be just you and her meeting up so you don't have to deal with trying to isolate in a group setting. I wouldn't push for the date right away. Make it seem almost accidental. In a week or so, you just happen to be doing something (anything) and you invite her to tag along with you. You're already a social guy so this should be easy; just invite her to become a (small) part of your exciting day.

Another reason this may be a 'next' girl is the 2nd date was with her friend and that doesn't usually bode well for a successful meetup as happened in this case. But yeah, either way, meet more girls for sure.

ok so she agreed to meet up tonight,
i told her that ill be going to the gym and that id call her after

should i just not follow through since she ended up not calling me like last time? in order to gain more control?
or do i just go and try to k-close this time

Your call man. Go with your gut.