Story time!!

I had issues with depression in my 20's I don't have a lot of experience dating before last year. I reintroduced myself into the the dating scene last year (2012). Had AA issues and didn't know how to handle rejection at the time. I went on exactly 3 dates in 2012. 2013 was a lot better but far from perfect.

I should point out that I am living at home for now and am working towards getting out of here this winter lol. Falling off a ladder without insurance can set you back financially and force you to live with mommy and daddy. So this probably contributed to some of the LMR I had this year.

I'm confident in my ability to hold a good conversation while on a date. All my dinner dates lasted over 2 hours because they were going that smoothly. I'm very easy to talk to. I'm also a good kisser which usually ensures I get the D2. I decided to write about my dating life this year so hopefully you see something I don't or know what questions to ask. Half the women I dated this year ended on the third date. I'm also probably a little too "nice"

Here's my dating life for this year:
1. I met someone HB8 at a local club in February we dated for about 2 months and then she decided she couldn't deal with relationships along with school/work/teenager, etc ,etc. She chose to become celibate until schooling and internship is done (next summer basically). We still talk and text and hang out on occasion (bonus question: is having a game night where you both tease each other with limited escalation a friendzone thing? And she also texts me like a caring person normally does.)

2. After that I met someone HB6 online and we went on 2 dates that went well. The "third date" was a invitation to her house and watch a movie. We made out, sucked on her tits, I got the "I'm having a period" (LMR) excuse, but still got a handy for my hard work. Two days later she tells me "isn't feeling it" or whatever excuse she used.

3. Then I met someone HB8 who was a lot of fun over the summer. 38D's are amazing! Eventually she started complaining how I always wanted to have sex (even though she initiated most of it lol). She had money and travel problems and lived 40 mins away. Wasn't very intelligent. I"m pretty sure she cheated on me too but no proof. Didn't work out.

4. After that I met another online HB6 user. For the third date she invited me over for a dinner date at her place. I'm never gonna let a woman plan a date again lol. Didn't go smoothly at all. Lots of stupid things went wrong like the chicken was bad and we had to go to supermarket, etc, etc. Ended up getting the "I feel like we're just friends" story again.

5. I met another POF HB7 user. We went on only 1 date. We chose a local bar so not sure if that's a date. She was very flirty with me. It was obvious she wanted to have sex but there wasn't much of a connection. I invited her over anyways. I'm not sure what I did to turn her off when she came over because I didn't get any that night and she never spoke to me again. The only thing I can think of is that it was because I live at home.

6. Lastly, I just stopped seeing another online HB7 user. We got along really well on our dates. On D2 she invited herself to my house. This was after bar close. She decided to wait until we were in bed to say we weren't having sex but we messed around a little. On our D3 she invited me to her house but she said she "didn't want to have sex because didn't want first time with me drunk." and she let it slip that "she hadn't planned on sleeping with me that night." The only boobs I saw that night were on Game of Thrones. Earlier in the night she also brought up the idea of being exclusive. I'm still confused by this. Maybe because I don't have a lot of experience with women. Anyways, my reaction to this was to act like an idiot and became needy and got drunk one night and sent her some stupid drunk texts (lesson learned). Didn't work out.


My questions:
Why did she (number 6) invite herself to my house and me to her house - but not to have sex? Is it wrong to ASSUME that sex is involved after bar close? Should I have somehow made sure what she was really asking? Both times were after bar close and both times she said "no sex" while in bed. I'm very confused on how I should have handled this last situation. Is this normal behavior in women?

Also, I think I keep getting friendzoned because I don't know how to talk about sex. I'm probably too passive when it comes to the bedroom too. I'm intermediate in my ability to use body language, touching, and the eyes to flirt. For some reason I've always felt creepy bringing up anything close to sex when when on dates or even the club. I've always made sure the woman brings up sex first. Any pointers on improving this skill?

Is there something else that you see that I could use some help with?

hey mate

First of all, I'll clarify I am in no way a pua. In fact I'm probably as afc as it comes...

let me use my experience on the weekend as an example of how I got past lmr or even just full on resistance!

First of all you say you're a good kisser. Use this to your advantage as it is extremely powerful... like in my case.

Anyway, the girl was someone I had met and number closed the night before Whilst in bed she made it clear that she didn't want to do anything and that she "wanted to do the whole relationship thing properly with me" eeek!

Anyway we start kissing. All the while I'm throwing in a whole range of different kisses whilst on each occasion monitoring her breathing to get a feel for what works. Whilst doing this, my hands weren't able to venture anywhere effective.

After a while, (she was clearly extremely turned on by this point), she pulls away because she has to sleep. (she was still extremely tired from being out the previous night).

At this point, everything stops and I don't force the issue.

After a few minutes she says "I can't sleep cause I think I'm over tired"

I respond cheekily with "I think I know another reason why you can't sleep but I'm not telling"

TIP: When girls are extremely turned on, they can't sleep... and they know it!

Straight away she invites me to start kissing her again in the manner i was previously (neck, ear, lips) before grabbing my hand and placing it on her crotch.

Game, Set, Match!

*For those wondering, she's since backed off on the serious relationship thing and we're catching up again this week.

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