| Okay, I’ve been banging my head against the wall on this for quite some time now, so I guess it’s time to call in the big guns in the sticking point forum. Yes, this is a throwaway account, because what I’m asking is sure to be controversial with some of the guys around here. I’ll make you this assurance: everything I do is legal and meshes with my personal standards of ethics. If you have a problem with it, butt out, because you won’t be helping anyone spewing your own personal limiting beliefs on this thread.
The sticking point I have is that whenever I meet a girl who is still in high school, the deal simply will not close until she’s graduated. Thus far I’ve been able to eliminate age as a factor (girls sometimes graduate as young as 16 here), virginity, and “type” of girl or what tribe she’s in. I’m in my early 30s and take care of myself physically. I’d call my game “solid” in that I can hook up on a regular basis, encounter little LMR anymore, and really have the whole pickup thing sorted out, so long as the girl isn’t in high school.
A few examples:
GothGirl and I met at a local fair the summer after her junior year. We flirted and added each other on facebook. I kept suggesting meet-ups, hang outs, and dates of various kinds at regular intervals. She never outright declined with an excuse, but nothing ever materialized. I tried freeze-outs. I tried assuming the close. I tried inviting her along to activities. I even tried straight-up “come over, hang out, watch a movie with me.” Nothing worked. Until about 2 weeks after she graduated, then I pulled a “come over, hang out, watch a movie” (I forget the exact phrasing). She replied with a “hold on, brb” and disappeared for half an hour, at which point she asked if I could pick her up. I said sure, and found out within 10 minutes that “hold on, brb” was to give her time to shave every hair off her body.
LunaLovegood honest to god looked like Luna Lovegood: unkempt blonde hair, pale complexion, total space-cadet voice. We met while I was helping out with an activity she was involved in. We talked and grew close, and I pretty much BF destroyed a kid she didn’t want to be dating in the first place, and made a very clear statement of intent that I was interested in her. We met in parks a few times after my involvement with the activity ended to walk and talk, but I couldn’t get so far as a k-close. She was a virgin and was anxious not to be seen and have people start talking about her. Like with GothGirl, we kept in touch for quite some time and I made sure to always have a suggestion of things for us to do together. Nothing until about a month after her graduation when we met in the park around sunset one evening. I wound up taking her virginity in the grass an hour or so later and she wondered aloud why she hadn’t met up with me before. She couldn’t tell me when I asked her for help figuring it out.
BrainySmurf was one smart chick, and we met at the library on a college campus. Apparently she was doing research for a paper her high school’s library was inadequate for. She was 15 when we met, but I didn’t learn that until very late in our first interaction. She dressed like she belonged and spoke intelligently on subjects women twice her age can’t manage. I gathered her phone number, figuring it would go cold. She told me to be sure only to text, because she was 15 and her parents weren’t big on her talking on the phone. Especially with guys twice her age. We made friends though, and a few months later she invited me to come to her high school graduation. Normally that’s something I’d avoid like the plague, but I’d grown fond of her and was pretty proud of her for graduating so early, so I decided to go. In the receiving line afterwards, she slipped a note into my hand asking me to meet her at her car in 20 minutes. We met there and I gave her a few orgasms before she headed off to her graduation parties.
Now, all these examples are examples where I’ve closed the deal, and they’re fairly representative — for instance, instead of GothGirl I could have told you about ChurchGirl who I met at a church I was a guest at. The broad strokes of the story were the same, except that she left a tiny patch of pubic hair unshaved. There are more instances where I met the girls and despite initial good reactions and some excellent phone and text game, the contacts blurred and flaked. The girls I managed to sleep with became good friends, and I wound up being a summer fling for most of them. Others kept seeing me from time to time through their freshman year of college. Some still call me from time to time.
What is keeping me from closing the deal with girls while they’re still in school? Do I have a mental block? Do they have an objection I’m not seeing? Any of you guys have a technique you use to make this happen?
Once again, if you’re here to help, I’m all ears. If you’re going to moralize against me doing things which are legal and which fit my code of ethics, I won’t even bother responding.
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