it’s been 4 times recently that I take a girl home and fail to move from couch to bed.

Each time taken separately I don’t mind too much, but 4 is not so pleasurable .

BACKGROUND
All the times I went to a park, sitting on the grass with a beautiful view with a bottle of wine. Usually many people are there.
Conversation has been good most of the times.
I do touch the girl, but not overtly sexual and I don't get too close and I don’t kiss before we get home (and ho hand holding).
I never had to insist too much to get home, and I don’t think they thought of me as just a friend.

3 I brought home on the first date, 1 one the second as she was very cautious/scared around strangers and had class the day after.

AT HOME
I start kissing quite early on the couch.
The kiss is either accepted at first try (3 cases) or after a couple of tries (1 case).
Since it’s the first time we are so physically close together and it can seem a bit pushed, I keep the conversation going after the kiss as if it were no big deal.
And then I go at it again. Usually no strong make out comes out, but I do have my arm around them, touch their belly, touch their boobs.
This can last around 15-20 minutes with me intermittently going for the kiss.
Then, I say I’d like to go to the bed and stand up.

Reactions:
1 we were at our second date, she said no and that she had to catch her last metro (true), I will meet this one again;

1 didn’t want to, also commented how did I have the courage to ask for that. She said she “knew my type” and how classical for people from my Country, asked how many girls did I bring home etc. etc. (this one I will not see anymore, wasn’t sexually receptive and I think she reminds me as a creepy guy after having moved so fast on a physical level);

1 was very inexperienced, was closing her body crossing her arms almost as if she wanted to fend off an attack, she had a BF but didn’t tell me about it (I think she was too into me to give up on the chance of being together);

1, this evening, stood up and followed me, but then chickened out before bed and fumbled nervously she couldn't and had to go (she had a BF).
I think an issue was that she was completely dressed, maybe I should have made out with her while standing and started removing clothes (my idea was hugging/touching/kissing on the bed and start removing);




YOUR THOUGHTS PLEASE!

Please don’t read this before you have already thought/given some answers or my opinion will affect yours and you will not be able to add a different point of view .

ISSUES
Partially I have some ideas about what my issues might be:

1. Buying temperature was not enough from them
I might pause too long from kisses and talk too much to “make it sound natural” and to make her horny with my coolness rather than my prolonged touch.
it worked well in some cases, but some other times I might have to shorten and escalate more strongly, indeed I rarely move to strong sexual escalation on the couch as I plan to do that on the bed.


2. Buying temperature was not there from my side
My will wasn’t super strong.

I live with SPAM and I do give some thoughts that the longer the girl stays in my room, the less the girl on the other hand of the wall will sleep.

I wasn't too much on a sexual mood either. Just kissing and touching a bit without facing each other wasn't making me super horny.
Also:
One had some breath issues after the wine (I would have done her, but that was a big turnoff);
One I was pretty sure I was going to see her again and I knew she had to leave;
One was putting up strong resistances, I wasn’t too much really into her and I was pretty sure she was very much into me and would have happened anyway;
One I thought just wasn’t too into me and I didn’t insist too much for her not to call the taxi (we agreed the taxi would come 20 mins later).

Try this: Don't verbalize that you'd like to move to the bedroom. If it looks like she's into you, then just take her hand and lead her to the bedroom.

Just my 2 cents.

-Wolf

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2 cents are always very appreciated and it actually seems a very good suggestion

Anyone?

What do you guys think of not kissing at all before home (I know I know, different situations different actions, but in general.. )?

I know of some guys that give a pecker on the lips as soon as they meet.
It could actually be good to kick start an SPAM of relax and destroying the barriers right away...

Take wolf's suggestion. Also start some foreplay on the couch, lead gradually. Get drunk on the couch, it gives both you and the woman an excuse to move to the bedroom.

They're already at your place so they are down to fuck. (except for that one case) If you need an excuse to bring her into your room tell her "oh god you have to see this video on my computer!" And bring her in. Just make up any excuse to bring her into your room in the first place. Then you should begin kissing them there and escalate accordingly from there.

If they are not in your room have them touch you. Make them touch you and slowly lead them to your cock as you are escalating on her. Make her wet & horny! Then, just as wolf said, lead her into the room. Don't say anything!!!! Just lead her there. If she says where are we going/why. Just tell her. I have to show you something. It's a "surprise".

Lastly, why not fuck her on the couch? Do you have roommates? If they are away, you should just do it there!