I feel like the most challenging thing for me in opening and attracting. I have only done it successfully around 5 times in the last year or so. I really can't open unnaturally without seeming obnoxious or interested in the girl because it's like I have to come up with a reason to talk to her. Should I just go on with this trial and failure. I mean I know failure is a part of learning but do I really have to make such an ass of myself most of the time. I fell like so much depends on the girls mood to. If she isn't bored and looking for someone to talk to or is already attracted to you I feel like it already a lost cause. Like walking down and street and seeing a hot girl texting and walking and saying "don't text and walk. that's dangerous." WTF kinda opener is that. It's just obnoxious. I'm really working with no material. Another time I complemented a girl on the yin yang painted nails and then we got into a whole discussion on eastern philosophies and how we don't like judo-chistran based religion and that was perfectly natural and went well. Another time I was just lookign at baby chicken at and fair and talk to this girl next to me and I took her out to lunch later on but is was all natural. Pickup I feel like shouldn't be about something your doing and just being and that's where I really stuck. I think sarge should be a taboo word because it just puts so much tension in that air and makes guys think that they have to figure out how to put on this show through trial and failure.

This one girl that I am already on C2 (comfort 2) of the MM I am doing pretty good with but I really haven't kino'd her enough. You'd be surprised how important kinoing is. Without it there is much less escalation in sexual tension. What I really want to say is that it took me almost 9 months to get were I am with here. I know I can bring her into the seduction stage with a little more effort. I had to DHV for so long, she really thinks I'm funny, and genuinely likes me but how can I reduce the timing. I mean 9 months is so long for a pickup.

I hope that this post is worthy and on topic for Sticking Points and I apologize if it isn't. Replies are very much appreciated.

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This is hard for alot of guys. Most guys think that an opener or a "line" is going to build attraction. You have to actually BE an attractive guy. Be a guy who lives a lifestyle that women would want to be a part of and they will naturally be attracted to you. Feel as if people should be honored to have to opportunity to get to know you.
Getting good with pick up is all about reference experiences. Repetition. Failure. Lonely rides home trying to figure out what you did wrong and a burning passion to go out and do it better the next night because you are sick of losing. You can ask Derek Rose how he got so good at basketball... it wasn't through reading a book or some website posts by Michael Jordan. It was through spending hours upon hours practicing. It doesn't happen over night dude. It won't all just click. You've got to approach more. Make peace with the fact that not everyone will like you.
Yes. Make an ass of yourself. That is the only way you will learn. If it just came easy... everyone would learn pick up. You will fail. You will fail more than you are successful. I've been going out, practicing pick up for 5 years now. I still get rejected alot. I think its funny lol find something in each set you approach. Don't eject after you feel a set is about to go cold on you... Do something fucking STUPID and leave on a bad note. Burn every set you go into TO THE FUCKING GROUND!! See it as if you are a warrior in the old days and once you get off your ship to start fighting, you burn it. Don't turn back. Just keep going until its done. (Once it hooks of course... if a girl tells you to fuck off and go away, just excuse yourself. Don't be an annoying tool. I don't want to see a field report titled "I got my ass kicked because Majik told me to do this!!" Being socially calibrated comes from experience. Once you know how to act in one situation, you will know how to act in a similar situation in the future. Use your brain.


Obviously. Her mood can effect the whole interaction. If she is walking down the street and responding to a text from her mother saying that her dog just died... Your witty comment probably won't go over so well. But you will never know unless you try. The whole thing with opening is you really just want to get a reaction out of them. I had a student this weekend who made out with a girl because I told him to give her "the finger" when she walked by. They were all over each other in front of the bar. (SUCCESS! Guy hadn't kissed a girl in 4 months! Anything can work!! You've got to try it!!)
Nothing wrong with that. Just pay attention to all your interactions and take something away from each one. Don't see anything as a failure. See it as a learning experience. You wouldn't have the leverage to get better if you didn't fail. You have to have more than 5 cold approach interactions in a year though.
Okay so this one you were obviously able to take the interaction a bit further. Would this girl be a girl that would have talked to you otherwise? No. Appreciate the fact that a hot girl was even listening to you. Small victories bro. Eventually, you get there.
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The tension only comes from yourself man. I don't feel any tension or pressure when I go out. Nor do I tell my students to feel any pressure. Just go out and have fun. Be the guy who is out celebrating something special and having a good time. Be the life of your own party. Think about how a rapper is when he goes out on the weekend after he just released a new album or something... He's out, partying, celebrating his success. Be that guy... Don't be some creep who is just out to pick up girls. This will also make you much more naturally attractive because you a guy who is successful, high value, and not afraid to go out and celebrate.


You're probably in the "friend zone with this girl already. 9 months in and you haven't escalated sexually? You should be clear in your intent very early in the interaction. Otherwise you are "just a cool guy" but someone who is too big of a pussy to make a move. My 2 big rules in pick up 1. Don't be outcome dependent. (Who cares if you lose the girl? There are always more.) and 2. Don't be a pussy. (Push as far as you can. Calibrate her comfort levels. Get the reference experience.)
Eventually you have to stop with the demonstrating higher value shit and also make her feel like a high value woman. You are actually putting yourself TOO FAR out of her league if you demonstrate that you are too high value of a guy.
Hope this helps you out bro! Good luck!