I have the fundamentals and balls

But..

My daygame needs work..

I can get phone numbers an insta dates but consistent flakes

Most girls have (legit) boyfriends

And most girls seem to have a (legit time constraint)

I have tried EVERYTHING, get alot of quick phone numbers an play the numbers game, I've pushed it to insta dates that last about an hour,

I use 60 years of challenge at night time an works great , as you can imagine it's uncomfortable to open with sexual escalation in the daytime , but willing to give it a try as a last try......

I can only seem to lay the girls that give me an IOI in the 1st place..

My daytime cold approaches all flake, something is wrong, Im good at nightgame an get regalur results so my fundamentals are not my problem..

Can anyone share their daytime structure with me ?

My current structure

Smile

Open with touch

Stand In front of her an stop her

Direct compliment "I don't usually do this but I had to approach because you look gorgeous, an I'd feel very gay if I let you walk by"

If she stand there I Shake her hand and intro myself

Transition statements with "you don't seem like a Manchester girl.."

(sometimes I Transition with something situational about her)

I don't bombard her with questions, statements an stories

I tell her about a story of how I didn't approach the pretty girl that was staring at me
on the bus an felt guilty

I Qualify

Try to find a commanality to do together like salsa Dancing An number close or insta date and have good rapport

Then phone number flakes

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I feel your pain.

Im not even gonna get into the day game vs night game thing 'cause I can write a book on the how to.

But your problem and my current problem are flakes.

I can get the girl-but they always flake.

Honestly,the last 10 girls I'd solidly closed,# exchanged and tried meeting all flaked(lol).

What a fucking ratio of flakes!!

But my problem is comfort & rapport[not building enough of].

I know this isnt helpful to you Pebble,but just sharing similar cases of flakes.

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try skipping the part where you felt guilty when you did not approach a pretty girl in the bus..

I think its sending a creepy message about you..

You aren't building enough attraction, or maybe you are asking for a date when you first text them, asking for a date right away builds pressure. I would try to do a date right away if they aren't busy during the day i approached them. I would say hey are you hungry, lets grab a coffee, or I am about to grab a bite to eat, lets go.

Try to build attraction over the phone and text then I say after two or three times later I would imply hanging out unless she asks and already have something planned and say, Hey a couple of buddies of mine are going to so so, you should bring your girls.

Its alot easier if you ask her to bring her friends so she has someone else to talk to besides you if it gets awkward.

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Your structure is fine. I'd say it's your follow up that's the problem. Try sending a witty text right after you meet her, within a few minutes. Then, follow up by calling the next day. A lot of the time girls will enjoy the initial interaction, only to backwards rationalize things later and be like "shit, I barely know this guy, what was I thinking?" and flake rather than have to deal with an awkward date. The trick is to consistently prove that you're actually a fucking unique, interesting, fun guy, and the approach is just part of your super confident personality. The best way to do that is building some more comfort over the phone the day after, so you cement yourself in her mind and show yourself to actually be pretty normal.

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Thanx for the input

I have good text game , it's one of my strengths , I text also when the iron is hot, I don't wait days..

It's defo not my follow up game

The girl dont won't respond , or is too weak of a reply for text game..

Someone mentioned my attraction game which is a good point...I also I feel maybe it's innergame, I feel like im taking value and not adding it..

When I'm in a conversation it feels very intense , perhaps they can read it in my BL

Thanx, I just need a structure To follow from someone who is good at DG, So I can't blame my structure

I feel all I do is go out, compliment girls, give them attention ,the power an the reward is their flakey number

I dont get how people say daygame is much easier, it a complete different dynamic, nighttime people are more sociable and want to meet someone..

I also think another problem is... I only approach the super hot girls (the girls that have abundance of cock) where a at night time I approach alot of girls until I get rejected until I find a good lead an do well with that girl

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not gravediggin this or anything.. but did you guys check out Sinn's Day game Mastery program from a to z? Also Jeremy Soul's ebook?

I'm currently reading a lot of day game material and this got me thinking..

What I understood from Sinn is since you don't have that much time to build comfort during the daytime, then you must do comfort through phone TALKING and not texting. Make it a normal thing for her to talk to her, a part of her life.

Also, during the daytime, a lot of flakes is due to lack of qualification and rapport building. Sinn states that from his own personal experience, to get a "solid" phone number the interaction should run from 8 to 20 minutes or something along these lines... Just enough time to actually find commonalities I guess.

Don't you think that you should not lie in your structure and in fact don't have a structure to what you say at all as 60yoc says. Don't be bothered with what you say much. Get her to talk. If you want to know something about the girl which I recommend that you keep a list of things you want to know from girls, go ahead ask it from her but don't have a structure of what you say. That's just MM nonsense. Try this and I think it will help you remove your flaky phone number problem.