Been gaming lots for the last 3 months, 10-30 sets weekly with my wing. In that time I've taken probably 30 phone numbers and had many opportunities in which I should have full closed but was unable.
While I can open like crazy (I tend to open most of our sets) he closes almost all of his targets while I have closed only one
I can think of about 6 that should have closed, that didn't. For example:
-One girl KC'ed in a nightclub, came home with me after I'd been telling her all night she would and her saying the opposite. Try to escalate beyond kissing once in bed and she bounces.
-Another girl comes back to my place after day 2. We putter around a bit, the moment I kiss her she jumps on me and starts dry humping me like crazy. I try and close, she resists, and on her way out says "Glad I have my period." Suspect she would have fucked me otherwise that day. She flaked on multiple occasions after and I had to drop her.
-Girl I've been flirting hard with on Facebook for 1.5 years. She'd even admitted she would have had sex with me the day we met FWIW if she had found me again. Finally had an opportunity to meet up for a weekend (we live in different countries.) She lets me initiate kissing, hand in shirt and pants, before giving me about a million reasons why we can't. She ends up angry I tried. Suspect her resistance and anger can't be taken at face value.
-Met up with old girlfriend, now friend, one evening. Went for sushi. She agreed to come back for a hot tub at my place. Had just bought new massage oil and offered her a massage. Shirt and bra off, massage her back legs and ass. She reciprocates the back massage, I start to stroke her legs. I roll over while she is straddling me, and to paraphrase she says "Is this what's happening?" I flip her over and get close for a kiss but get several face turns before acknowledging its not happening. For the record, third parties comment this girl gives me doggy dinner bowl eyes every time she's in my company.
-Gamed an entire venue well one night. Blew open every set in the place. Spoke to one cute girl X only 5 minutes before she went to the toilet and was gaming another set one step away when she returned. Exchanged lots of glances for the rest of the night with X and spoke another couple minutes between engaging other sets. Upon X leaving with her friends at 2am, I slip a business card (Mines high value, wouldn't have done this if it weren't the only casual way) into her hands, and said "We never had a chance to finish our conversation, text me and I'll call you back tomorrow." She slips into a tight circle consisting of myself, my wing and a 2 set, kisses me on the mouth, slips out, and texts me 5 minutes later. I try and contact the next day, 3 days later, and ten days later to no avail.
-Plus others sadly
I think what is going on is I come on too strong or too early during seduction (with perhaps the exception of the last case, which I think I should have escalated that night). I have had prior experiences where things are going smoothly, but fall apart or get much more difficult after a failed seduction attempt.
My wing says once a girl is back at his place he switches gears completely into "little sister" mode. She inevitably tries to escalate kino in some way, which he subtly rejects at first (ie sliding 2 inches away on the couch). When she tries again he goes with it and he almost always closes without LMR.
Part of the problem may be I tend to take responsibility for the entire find meet attract close process. I sort of model it as the mans role to make it all happen, and that escalating demonstrates my confidence. I think its congruent for me, as I tend to approach as directly as possible (at night direct is usually ineffective so I am situational, but daytime I am direct). It's not working though.
Thoughts or opinions?
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