I mostly go to dnb rock clubs and bars. I don't know how to carry the conversation and escalate on the dancefloor. Now I am scared to escalate or even open when we're standing up near the dancefloor, because my energy is lower that that of the club. If I open, I open in low energy bars and on couches.
For ex, this is what happened last night :
Open this really cute girl. Basic opener. She is down to meet me, or so she says. Kino doesn't work. So I turn chode, asking questions interview mode(because otherwise I will end up dancing like a chode with her gay friends, without a chance to escalate further). She leaves, turned off. This happenes again and again once in a while.
Another set, I went in strong. AMOG some dude and got the girls full atttention. She was a bit attracted at first. I was close to her and hold strong EC. But I felt the conversation is getting boring again, so I told her "I want to kiss you". That was 30 seconds in, so she left.
Even in some of the best sets, where I make EC with the girls 3-4 times before I approach them. So they like me. I go fully on. Talk a little, escalate a little, then convo dies down because it's a club. Escalation stops somewhere around 30 seconds, I get really close to her face, but we won't kiss that fast. So now after this 30 seconds boost of attraction, it's comming down...we are dancing face to face and she is slowly tempted to leave. Negative body language. The rest you imagine...
Am I doing something wrong or are the girls not interested ? Maybe there were ways to save this sets...

It sounds like you are able to open, but it goes down hill from there. I know this is going to sound counterproductive, but hear me out. If you have a good opener and things are going well, touch somewhere on the upper arm as you say excuse me and walk away without explaining yourself. From there if you can walk up to another girl (maybe a pivot, maybe a stranger) and make her smile or laugh, the first girl will come find you later in the night. Doesn't always work, but when it does it works great and they are very interested and intrigued with little effort invested from you.

Try it and post back results or tweeks.

That's the worst advice ever, considering most of my interactions are 30 seconds short. How will they come back after me if I can't prove value initially lol...

you sound fairly new. Focus for now on keeping a chat going and approaching a lot of women. After a short while you will recognise attraction, which is much easier than it seems. Then take her to the dancefloor or plain kiss her. I'd recommend going smoking areas and at the bar alongside the dancefloor to get some experience.
Also strongly recommend this post esp-model-of-escalation-vt97891.html

and same guy http://174.133.97.163/view-previous-top ... w=previous (read parts one and two as well)

Good luck man.

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I like the idea of leaving suddenly, and false time constraints. Don't think of the bar scene as a bar scene. Think of it as a party. That IS what the bar scene is, whether it's a downtown block, or if the people at that bar tend to stay there the whole night, it's all just one big party. Have a good time. Dismiss some people and they'll lock you into their mind as if they had more to say to you, if the conversations are going stale.

Also, it seems to me like you're going from EC to talking...at a bar. If you have EC as an IOI then you've been given the OK to go direct. If you go from 0-I want to kiss you, with no connection otherwise, it's a lose-lose. Tell her what turns you on about her, or just simply go from the introduction to the dismissal if things aren't going your way.

I look at "going my way" as in, I'm not attracted to her or I am not vibing off her. When you talk to a girl, you shouldn't be asking "How can I achieve and maintain attraction with this girl?" You should be asking yourself, "Am I actually attracted to this girl."

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