I just had another similar post, but this is a question I have been wondering for a long, long time.

A little backround first. I was homeschooled by missionaries, and my only friends were from church or boyscouts. They really all were high moraled people. I was taught not only no sex before marriage, but no kissing or even holding hands. I was a really strong christian till I was 17, and then pulled a 180(religiously). I honestly believed these morals until 17, I was the best goody two shoes boy till 17.

To make the situation even more awkward I had almost no friends till that age either, so I have almost no idea what is socialy allowed. I have no idea what I should be able to expect to get away with. My first female friend was at the age of like, 16(and she was a goody two shoes girl too).

So how do I get rid of all these moral chords that hold me down? How do I feel myself say "no" to everything sexual, and then go anyways? I don't have these morals anymore, but they still mess my game up. It's always nagging me in the back of my mind. It's like I still feel the need to abide by these morals.

Are there any ways you guys know of to kill off these damned residual feelings?

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alright man. my first piece of advice is to just be careful. to see what we see, watch MTV, but know that what you watch there isnt reality, but as a majority of America watches programs there, they percieve it as reality, and try to live lifes similarly to how they think the ideal life is lived. Almost all of American culture is derived from the media. the medai displays to us what the ideal reality is and people see to try to mimic that. its a sad truth.
so first, I dont know how old you are, but find some local events in your area online. go to some, go to some popular areas and just try to meet people that you have things in common with. common interests, lifestyles, pasts, that kind of thing. maybe check in with a local lair, a lot of guys convene to help eachother in their game, and im sure someone there will be happy to help integrate you into the happenings of the area, introduce you to people, all that jazz. if you are in school, make friends with classmates, if you are working, be friendly with the people at work. if you find yourself in a position where you are with the social skills to make friends, thats ok, you are not the only one. go out and rent some movies, pick out a character that is popular and study him. dont become him, but try to find out what he does, what characteristics he has that people like about him. you could also pick up some psychology books, those will tell you what conscience and subconscience things people like in others.

good luck and feel free to PM me if you want more help.

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you've just gotta shake it off m8 seriously lol.
push your boundaries bit by bit, once you find a stage you're comfortable with stay there...but the stage also has to be one in which you are able to further your female experience..so basically if you wanna get laid, you'll have to push your boundaries till you are comfortable at that level. if you get what i mean.

Learn the stuff, calibrate it to your persona, deal with issues that hold you back and learn to accept the new experiences.

play on player.

Make friends at work? Get a prostitute? I dont know.

But don't try to "make up" for the lost time.

READ THE ART OF SEDUCTION By Robert Greene Please!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then tell me what you think : )

That man will kill your morals dead like they were birds on the road and he came along in a F350 at like 130mph

This is my favorite book in the whole world. It's a much deeper approach to seduction than The Game.... in my opinion of course.

Narc, welcome to the forums and to PUA. The best advice i can give you is to start reading books about the subject. (as a side note: Erin im beginning to think your a sales person for that book )

The morals presented to you in religion were not bad, do not throw them away completely. I personally am agnostic, so im not trying to keep you religious.

Instead what id recommend is simply realize that people, like all other animals, live with maybe many purposes...but one is common to all beings, and thats reproduction. You are human, and reproduction (and the desires to go through those motions) are natural and not immoral.

Not that its news to you, but by being home schooled and being sheltered by moral extremes, your growth as an adult and a social being have been stunted. You can however turn that around.

If you have not read it yet, read a book called "The Game". Its not a how-to, but instead an eye opening story that shows people that you can change and become not only better with women, but become a better social being. Other books should follow after that.

I hope this helps.

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"Be the same, only better."

My parents are quite religious as well and they seem to have tried to brainwash me in the past when I was young (im 27) now but they only managed to make go to church in like christmas and easter.. and this pretty much as a custom. Also they were not sociable so I'd struggle to make lots of friends when I was younger.

With time I started going out a long and hanging out with people who live different lifestyles than mine. What you have to do is when you hang out with people don't mention stuff like religion etc, and certainly don't get into any debate of that sort, people sort of freak out with such talks. Keep in mind that when people go out, they just want to have fun, so try to remove your barriers and just enjoy yourself.

My advice is forget all about whats right in the eyes of god or whatever, and do what pleases YOU without hurting others' feelings. Your freedom ends where the freedom of another person begins, so the foundamentals that you have been taught exist and will help you AFTER you get out there and get some experience under your belt.

You will eventually crash and burn a few times, perhaps even get hurt by people of lower moral standards than you but don't worry about it, in a few months time with the proper training you'll be able to see the world from another viewpoint.

What you are about to read in books like Mystery Method or various ebooks will most probably make you think "I'll never do that". But trust me, if you put a little effort you'll do just fine.

When I was 18 my parents bought me a mobile phone to be able to find me and make me go home, they were overprotecting. Then I started expanding my social cycle and when I was 20 I knew most people in the best clubs of Athens/Greece (and whoever has been in athens knows about the wild nightlife) and ALL it took was going out frequently, being friendly with everybody but not act needy. Show some confidence and that you know how to have fun and you'll take it from there..



By the way, having fun does not mean you'll end up drunk each time you go out. Take it easy with the alcohol, and just try to have positive energy, which means even if you're worried about exams or whatever else, when you go out, the people you are with do NOT care and do NOT wanna know. So when you're out with them, try to focus on just the positives of your life!

Go to a frat party that will bring down your morals depending the frat.

Okay seriously you probably don't want to lose all your morals what I suggest you do is watch superbad, the 40 year old virgin, and every american pie. That will lower your morals.

exerpt fro Double your Dating p.26 Author David Deangelo (I dont want 2 get sued)
"I once heard a wise man say, “Religions take everything that your DNA naturally wants to do to survive and procreate and makes it wrong.” Why? Well, if you’re busy fighting your internal drives, and you see God as the only way to cleanse yourself of these ‘bad’ thoughts, then you are a much better SHEEP. If you want to get people to follow you, first confuse them, then convince them that you know the way to get them out of their confused state. Easy."

Dont throw away your religion altogether or theirs a chance you might turn into a social robot. Unlike everyonne else I like to balance religion and girls even though they go aginst each other.

Guess what you sin just for thinking about a girl so you might as well just do her.

disclaimer: I know Im border lining on copyright laws just to be careful I put them in direct quotes and listed the source where I got them from My collage Porfessor says thats all I need on a non essay format. So instead of locking the thread mods just delete my post if its infringing copyright

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