| Some of these guys are giving advice that is mediocre on this, but works. Others are giving better advice. I definately felt the need to give you a reply to this though because I feel I am the expert in this department. I am a shaman and yogi so I have always lived a monastic lifestyle and never had a lot of money, and for the right reasons, so I know how to deal with this very well. But regardless of the need to deal with it, I want to tell you, you dont have to explain your situation. The fact of the matter is that the nature of sociology is changing. You have to looka t what women are doing. They are taking over the top of the totem pole, and still making us pay for everything? We used to do that because we were at the top of the totem pole and women didnt even really work. now they rule the world. So honestly I think they should be paying, not us. But I'm not going to get into politics. I'm going to give you practical advice. When you are the one asking for the date, setting it up, and all that, sometimes it is implied that you will pay. So here is what you do. If you meet her at bar and end up hanging out that night and it turns into somethign like a date, you didnt ask for that or arrange it, so there is no expectations there, just maek sure that she pays for her drinks and you pay for yours, or that there is an alternation. If you meet her on the street and get her number and then game her and try to get her out, or something of that nature, you have to have a first, second,a dn third date plan. These plans should be creative dates. Dates that most men dont do. Things that not only dont cost much, but are unique. Dont do dinner, drinks, movies, museums, etc. Do the beach, a park, a coffee shop (I always do a first date coffee shop, always), those sorts of things. The first couple dates should really be more like hanging out. And its important that you are the one who ends the date, not her. If you seem like you are going to stick around however long it takes, she will see that you are needy. When you do talk about going somewhere that costs money then you ask her: "How do you want to deal with paying?" The women will usually say they will do it "Dutch" style. Idk what that means, but I think it means either half and half, or pay for your own. Either way oftentimes the women end up paying for me, and you know why? Because they want to show me they are strong women who can do that, and they want to test me to see if I am strong enough to handle it. They thought to themselves, "oh this isnt just some guy who is going to pay for everything and roll out a red carpet for me huh? he is going to make me step up to the plate and meet him halfway? Well I'll show him whats what!" Women who you pay for everything with wont respect you. They will have lots, and lots, and lots of fun at your expense. They may or may not have sex with you. Tehy may or may not like you. But you wont know it, cause they will be living it up with you. Until your money runs out. Then they will t hink oh I guess he is not who I thought he was, he is really not that much fun. So start dating with creative dates. Then ask her how she wants to deal with paying. Once you have been on a handful of dates you can start asking her out on fancy ones once in a while and paying and really treating her. And guess what? It will be a real treat, and she will respect it, because she doesnt expect it. When she expects you to pay she doesnt respect it. And its also not sustainable for you. WHen you make her pay you make her really step up to the plate and act like a real woman for you. Because thats what women do these days, they work, and they pay their own way. And what you can do if you want there to be more treating involved, when you ask how they want to pay, say "I think it would be really nice if we took turns treating each other", women usually like that. Oftentimes if I dont want to have a conversation about how to pay, because of something situational, like I was the one choosing the location or something and felt it would be expected of me to pay, is that I will pay for the first thing ordered, and I will do the ordering of it. Then I will ask her to order me something, the payment for which is implied. Understand how that works? Its a serious social dominance move. And the look on teh womans face when she realizes she is not going to take me for a ride and that she is going to have to meet me halfway is priceless. Its like at first a look of being let down that she is not going to take advantage of me, and then a look of reassurance and strength, like yes, this is what a real man would do and expect of me, not to take advantage of him. See they will play mind games with you, and you have to play them back, and when you do they usually will stop, and give you the respect you deserve, and have earned. Once you prove yourself to a woman she will not only respect you but will cherish you, and will actually be wanting to pay for shit for you. I have had multiple relationships where I actually never paid for a single thing because I was so strong and alpha at the beginning and challenged them to meet me there on that level, and they loved it. Women can be seriously gangster man, make sure you win them over so they are working for you, not working you. _________________
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