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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:03 am 
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Whenever I open a girl, we eventually talk about one thread, then jump to another or return to a previous one after the opener serves its purpose. But despite the two of us talking nonstop about random stuff, I don't know how to get physical in the sense of kino-escalation!!

I remember this one time that I was holding hands with this one girl, and she suddenly had to break the hand-holding moment by taking a picture of this one random car. I totally knew that she wasn't ready for that kino, despite us having an awesome time at the restaurant.

I'm also reading Sixty Years of Challenge's "The Secrets of Micro-Escalation and Escalating the Vibe", and how to escalate by seductive listening or seductive eye contact is beyond my understanding.

The only kino I've ever done and continue to use is that during a magic card routine, I tell the girl to make a table with her hands. I place the card on her hand, then place my hands directly over hers. I've read that kino's purpose is for the girl to get used to the subtle and innocent touches from the guy, but other than this, I don't know how to kino or escalate in any physical manner.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:25 pm 
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Things I've done that have worked:

If she's sitting next to you in a booth at a club or in a restaurant, or in a car, tell her "Here, put your legs up..." as you grab her legs and put them up on top of your lap.

Grab or feel her arm or leg as you ask her some question about that part of her body "Why is your skin so cold/warm/sweaty/dry?" "What kind of fabric is this?"

Run your fingers through her hair as you tell her that you just noticed how nice her hair is.

Sitting next to her, when she starts telling you something and making eye contact, give her a sensuous look and slowly lean in closer to her. Even when it comes time for you to respond, don't respond and just keep looking into her eyes then slowly say "Yep..." to whatever she says. This lets her know that you are much more interested in HER rather than whatever stupid topic she was yammering on about. It creates sexual tension that can often lead to a kiss.

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Things I've done that have worked:

If she's sitting next to you in a booth at a club or in a restaurant, or in a car, tell her "Here, put your legs up..." as you grab her legs and put them up on top of your lap.

Grab or feel her arm or leg as you ask her some question about that part of her body "Why is your skin so cold/warm/sweaty/dry?" "What kind of fabric is this?"

Run your fingers through her hair as you tell her that you just noticed how nice her hair is.

Sitting next to her, when she starts telling you something and making eye contact, give her a sensuous look and slowly lean in closer to her. Even when it comes time for you to respond, don't respond and just keep looking into her eyes then slowly say "Yep..." to whatever she says. This lets her know that you are much more interested in HER rather than whatever stupid topic she was yammering on about. It creates sexual tension that can often lead to a kiss.
So is escalation meant for day 2's only? Or could I still escalate during the A1 to A3 phases?

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Said it before and I'll say it again, there is no day 2s or 3s when it comes to escalation. That's the old 1950s method of dating. Hold her hand the first night. Kiss the girl on the cheek the second night. Then get to second base, then third, on the next series of dates.

Modern pickup expedites this process as long as you go from comfort, rapport, attraction, seduction in sequence. Then there is no time limit. It can be done in five minutes or five days, it doesn't really matter.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Said it before and I'll say it again, there is no day 2s or 3s when it comes to escalation. That's the old 1950s method of dating. Hold her hand the first night. Kiss the girl on the cheek the second night. Then get to second base, then third, on the next series of dates.

Modern pickup expedites this process as long as you go from comfort, rapport, attraction, seduction in sequence. Then there is no time limit. It can be done in five minutes or five days, it doesn't really matter.
Agreed! PUANinja is right on...I will get the kiss in the first 30 minutes 99% of the time. I carry a good bit of confidence and use my eyes and close proximity quickly. Ask about a ring or locket on a necklace to get some simple touching going. "Thats a cool ring, where did you get it?" Then take her hand (don't ask for permission) and look at it while she talks about it. Transition from the ring to her hands (i.e. they are small, cold, etc).


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