Hi everybody. I would like the opinion of those of you who have some experience in closing the deal (I mean, up to having sex).

What ways do you know to turn a woman on so much that she is totally ready to go with you to a hotel / your house or even she is the one proposing it by saying something like "let's go cuddle"?

And what ways do you know to turn a woman on so much that she is totally ready to have sex without LMR or even to make her take the iniciative? I mean when you are completely alone in your room / in an hotel room.

Or if you could recomend me any book/mp3 about this specific topic would be very appreciated. Obviously this refers BEFORE having sex for the first time with a specific girl.

Read and understand this step by step well written guide to the bedroom:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16768511/Vin- ... ion-Ladder

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I always have sex on the first date. Last time I was with such a beautiful girl that I had an image of making her my fiancee, and I turned her on so much that she would have given it up if I had pressed. But I chose not to because then afterwards she would have thought: "OMG did I do what I really wanted, or was I lured into it?" and that would lead to doubt. And doubt with women always immediately kills the relationship.

This may help you. I just f-closed a girl a few nights ago. It was like third date, only met her a week ago. She was pulling the "nice girl" stuff on me, and telling me she doesn't want to have sex. But I could tell deep down she was a freak, since most girls are. Anyway, I got her in the back seat of my car after our date and we started making out pretty hot and heavy. There was a lot of attraction/seduction going on obviously, and sexual tension.

Here's the thing, I wasn't pushing for an f-close. I wasn't begging her to let me take her home to have sex. I was just being in the moment and focusing on making her feel attracted to me. Then as it got later after a good while of making out in a parking lot, I told her I was tired and that I wanted to sleep next to her (not with her). It wasn't just a line, she new I had been sleep deprived all week do to my work schedule.

She agreed to let me go home with her on the condition of no sex. She honestly didn't want to have sex, but to an extent this was just an LMR/ASD reflex on her part. I actually didn't care if we did it or not, because I knew I could still get far with her and that it would happen eventually, perhaps another day. Long story short, we got home, it escalated, and we ended up fucking. There was still some resistance the whole time but you basically have to just keep seducing her right through it, and not accept no for an answer as long as she is still giving you IOIs. Hope that helps.

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Thank you all for your replies.
It seems that there are more possibilities to have sex on the very first date right?

What you usually do to turn a woman on before taking her to your house?

Don't worry about first dates, seconds, or thirds. What if you meet her at a club one night, then see her for coffee the next day, then have dinner and a movie the next weekend? That's what, two or three separate encounters already. A lot of girls don't want to put out on the very first official date because they don't want to seem like sluts. Who gives a fuck if you wait to fuck her another two or three days? Going on dates with women and flirting and touching them, and sometimes even just talking to them, doesn't exactly suck. So just enjoy yourself and work your game and move in for the f-close when the time is right. Don't let it drag out for weeks or months obviously, but also don't think that you MUST fuck her the first time you guys go out for coffee.

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Sure, I can tell you. The best method is online preparation. Go totally naughty and seduce her step by step through messages in either email, SPAM, even PS3 is a very surefire way. Get her to elaborate on her romantic ideas, then finely describe the sensations that suit your image of romance, and if she goes along with it you will eventually find yourself describing a situation where the two of you make love. How well you write depends on whether she goes along with it or not. For instance: "How would you feel if, after spending all this time together, I would conquer my nerves and move closer to you, lay my arm around you, feel your warmth, your skin, your tenderness . . ." basically spend a few nights setting up fantasies like this and you will set her up for a guaranteed night of fun without boundaries. Play with her mind, make it as enticing as you can.

Another way is this: a girl who drove 200 km to have dinner in my town. She kept saying on beforehand there was no way she was going to have sex on the first date. I just said: "Well, I tend to prefer more serious relationships than just some one night thingy. So for me that's ok. But then again, I'm a guy, so if it might happen unexpectedly I might not say no to it." She: "well yeah yeah get no illusions it won't happen." Me: "Fair enough. Now, I must emphasize that I'm a pretty strong personality. So when we got out for dinner later today, you might not feel intimately enough for me to actually touch me. So I just want you to know that you can touch me if you feel like it. Just try to conquer me, I'll certainly enjoy it." She said: "Well when I'm with a guy I usually do that when the time comes. Don't worry."

Then we had the dinner. I basically was myself, telling some anecdotes from all my journeys around the world and other interesting things. Let her talk a lot as well as I just ate and enjoyed the food. Then I offered to go for a walk, and we came to a small park and sat down. She laid her hand on mine, I grabbed it, then put it on her knee and started to caress her leg slowly. She brought her cheek close to my head, I caressed through her hair, then we kissed innocently. Offered to go see a movie. We went but the movies were crap so we just had a drink. I said: "Wanna go back to my place?" She: "But you live with your parents and they are home." Me: "Well, they are on holidays, in fact." (I had kept this information secret the day before so that I could use this as a surprise.)

She said: "Sure, I wanna go." We went to my place, on the sofa, dimmed the light put some candles on, started to make out. Eventually when I kissed her neck and aroused her enough offered to go to my room. And then it was just a matter of time before her bra went off, the rest, etc, we did it. She then got up and saw the rest of my room. She said: "OMG you have so many video games. Now that I see this, I do think you're kind of a nerd, after all."
I said: "I knew full well on beforehand you were going to say this. It was calculated. Yet, is no longer relevant now that we already did it anyway."

She really had to laugh then. I asked if I could go with her. Then she took me in her car 200 km to her place and I stayed there two weeks for non stop sex and just cosy things. She actually said: "I would never have thought we were going to have sex together. But then when you took me up to your room I could sense it, I think. This all was totally unexpected. To be honest," she added, "I thought you were going to send me home after the dinner. You were so calm and controlled in your way of speaking and body language. But then when you took me to the park I was intrigued." I said: "Yes, I knew my personality would have that effect on you, and yes, it was rather surprising, however that just proves we have something special going on" (even though I knew it was going to happen the moment she agreed to come to my place). However she was rather crazy so I couldn't follow up with serious relationship.

Thanks a lot for ur reply Mr. Marville
Did you do this to lower her defenses? I mean, Did you put all this videogames in your room to make her thing that no sex would happen?

Well you're welcome. Feel free to add me to friends or something and talk about this stuff, or ask for ideas and reflection whenever you require it.

I said it merely as a point of Epicness. When I was talking to her on chat the night before she was pretty much "I don't like nerdy guys." And I replied that I am a rather sportive person with all the kickboxing and jiu jitsu that I practice, and also a talented public speaker, and that these things don't match with the typical image of a nerd. I am, however, deeply committed to reading and studying. And yes I play videogames a lot. Basically I have two rooms. One is my bedroom. It has my desk, bed, and clothes. Behind that is another room, it has TV, computer, sofa and video games. My brother also uses that room from time to time. So she walked into that room after we did it and discovered the games.