Russian women!!! can someone help me ?



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Tools & Techniques of Game: Meeting, Attracting and Seducing Women » Sticking Points


Forum rules


A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
Quote:
I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
Quote:
I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
IT IS AGAINST THIS BOARD'S RULES TO POST THREADS ABOUT JUST ONE GIRL
If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:18 am 
Offline
New to MPUA Forum

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:07 pm
Posts: 12
Hi guys
i been gaming some russian latly and it just seem that first they get offended very quickly with negs and seem they dont have a sence of humour, my game is all based on humour wich seem that i am not getting good result with Russian women .
what's wrong ??


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:47 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Enthusiast

Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:55 am
Posts: 46
Y did u neg her? Was she acting like shes the shit? If not than negging isn't needed but do tease her when she does something dorky.
Another thing is how much do u know about this girl? I wanna guess she's a seductress because I'm spend lots of time with girls who are suductress.
Is she someone who is really into getting n protecting her Career, is she someone who Is really independent and want to earn things? If yes she's what we call a realist
2. Does she have more than 1 tatoo, is she comfortable with talking bout sex with people she doesn't know like that, does she drink or smoke? If she's any of those things than shes most likely a justifier.
3. Is she surrounded by lots of guy friends thanks girl friends? If yes she's a tester
If shes all of what I just listed than shes a suductress.
This combination makes 
her a very confident, sexual, independent woman. She is a Diva – not 
in the dramatic sense (she is very level-headed) – but in the sense that 
she is strong, sexy, and has a presence that intimidates a lot of men. 
That’s good news for any guy reading this, as you can move forward 
confidently. Simply understanding her and knowing how to handle her is 
massively attractive, as she sees most men as weak and insecure. This is 
very frustrating to her, as she is very horny, but also very career-focused. 
She doesn’t have time to coddle egos. In sense, her attitude screens out 
the weak. 
If you can keep your cool, not get emotionally needy, and take care of her 
needs sexually, she will be a wild woman – one of the all-time greats in 
your little black book. 
BUT, if you get upset when she is too busy to see you, or you appear 
nervous when talking with her, she will move on. She is not the kind of 
woman you can win back. Once she spots weakness, she is gone, and will 
never see you the same way again. 
This doesn’t mean she is cold-hearted. She just needs a man. You don’t 
have to be super confident, or a stud in bed. You just have to keep your 
cool, and be giving in bed. If you are inexperienced, this woman would 
love to teach you how to please her. 

Her Desires 
Notice that most of this relationship is about sex. That’s because she 
doesn’t have time for much else. She probably isn’t looking for anything 
serious and thinks dating is silly. She wants a man who is her friend, her 
homeboy, respects her time, admires her intelligence and talent, and fucks 
her when she needs it. Not a bad job description… 
Ironically, this is the best way to end up in a serious relationship with her. 
And the relationship terms will be optimal if you are a guy who is on his 
own path and has career and life goals. She won’t demand a lot of your 
time. Mutual respect for each other’s goals is the foundation for a longterm 
relationship. 
She wants the ongoing experience of seducing you. She feels powerful 
when she can use her beauty, energy, and skill to turn you on. She likes to 
perpetually chase, but not in a schoolgirl way. Seducing a man is how she 
gets her power fix. Throughout the week, she will need an ego boost, and 
will need to feel sexy. She gets high knowing that a man is hungry for her, 
not because he is just horny, but because of something she did to excite 
him. WE have some some great techniques to get her in that state. 

How She Gets What She Wants 
The Seductress is surrounded by horny guys. She is sexy and confident, 
and men are handing their balls over left and right (pun intended). This is 
boring. She enjoys the attention to a degree – it’s better to be wanted than 
unwanted. But she is looking for a guy that is a challenge. 
The degree of chasing here is different from the Playette and the Social 
Butterfly. You don’t have to tease her. You don’t have to play any games. By 
staying calm and talking to her like a normal person (no lines, smooth talk, 
or buying drinks), you look like a challenge simply by contrast (to all the 
other clowns chasing her). Typically she will show interest in you at this 
point. She has no problem taking the lead when she wants something (you). 
The Seductress has no problem with sex. Her confidence in her ability to 
seduce and satisfy a man eliminates any fear of appearing easy or slutty. 
She’s not a slut, she’s a Seductress. A slut sleeps with men for attention. 
She sleeps with men because she enjoys it. A slut gets used. A Seductress 
uses men! As Charlie Sheen would say, that’s hot. 
The Seductress may at some point want a family, but she knows that in 
this day and age, a women can’t rely on men to support them. She believes 
in being independent and paying her own bills. She is likely not going to 
be satisfied staying home until after she’s had kids. However, as with all 
women, she has the need to nurture her man in order to strengthen the 
bond. She does this by helping in practical ways (Realist). She can help you 
make professional connections to get your business off the ground. She 
likely knows a lot of people and has a good amount of influence in her field. 
Let her help you, challenge her to seduce you, never lose your cool, and 
respect her. 

Conversation 
Ignition 
An aggressive approach won’t work. But a confident approach will. 
Remember what I said about confidence. She has seen it all, and she 
knows the difference between a macho act and real emotional stability. 
She knows the difference between cockiness and self-assuredness. 
This means you should be very down to earth and casual in your 
approach. She’ll wonder why you aren’t fawning over her like every 
other guy. My favorite way to approach this type of women is to give 
her a genuine compliment, but in a way that says I’m used to beauty 
and it’s not a big deal. 
For example, try locking eyes and telling her in a non-chalant tone, “you 
look nice tonight.” Hold eye contact for one more beat, and look away. 
Nice? NICE? I’m just NICE? Who is this guy? 

Momentum 
Like I said, it’s easy to garner the interest of the Seductress for two 
reasons. First, she loves to chase, to seduce – it’s how she gets her 
power fix. Second, every other guy is groveling to get in her pants. 
So it’s simply a matter of not doing that. She will naturally want to 
conquer you. 
She interprets a man’s dominance by how comfortable he is making fun 
of himself (and her, but to lesser degree). Talk openly about your goals, 
failures, interests, and silly childhood memories, and your most recent 
embarrassing moment. And ask about hers as well. Keep the topic on 
passions, goals, and the mistakes that make us human. 
One other thing – and this takes some experience to cultivate – pull 
your attention away at key moments. Get the sense of when the average 
guy (the old you) would try to make a move or try to say something 
smooth and seductive, and instead, look away and relax your body. 

Connection 
The absolute best topic to talk about with the Seductress is sex. And 
this is where you show your true colors. Where the average guy will 
get overly excited about discussing sex with such a, well, sexy woman, 
you keep your cool. She is always, ahem, sizing you up. There are some 
things she’s looking for. 
She wants to make sure you’re packing a good tool for the job. You don’t 
have to be a pornstar, average, or even less-than average is fine, as long 
as you know how to use it. She interprets boasting and cockiness as 
overcompensation. But if you can laugh at yourself, it means you are 
secure…which implies that you are confident about what you can offer 
her sexually. 
She needs to know that you have stamina. So don’t blow your load, 
conversationally. Don’t convey that you are super interested in her. 
Don’t get giggly and overly excited about sex. Talk about fucking women 
as if you are talking about the weather – no, scratch that – your favorite 
sports team. Here’s why. 
She wants a man who is passionate. It’s no fun to give pleasure to 
someone who is unresponsive. And it’s no fun to think your lover is 
just going through the motions. She needs to know that once she turns 
you on, you will be an animal. Convey this by discussing sex, goals, and 
everything else, with enthusiasm. 
Notice the difference between being horny and passionate. If you 
are telling her about how much you love to watch a woman’s ass 
bounce when you fuck her from behind, talk about it with feeling and 
excitement. But give no indication that you plan on doing this to her. 
She will WANT to be on the receiving end of your passion, and will want 
to MAKE you want to give it to her (and she’s wonderfully frustrated as 
to why you don’t already). 
The last thing she is looking for is a giver. Men are selfish – she knows 
because she’s had a lot of them. She doesn’t need you to be an expert 
on cunnilingus, but she needs to know that you will ravish her body, 
because she is sexy, and she deserves it, dammit! 

Physicality 
Body Language 
One word: mysterious. When you make eye contact, hold it for one extra 
beat than would be “platonic” or polite. Then look away. It’s kind of like 
you are saying, with in that one brief moment, “You want me.” 
Keep a calm, slightly mischievous look on your face, as if you know 
something no one else does, and you are holding back a secret smile. 
You aren’t fooled by her swagger. You know she’s a sex kitten and just 
dying to sink her claws into you. 
Find that distance between up close and personal, and distant and 
uninterested. Stay there. She is highly charged, and very aware of your 
body and proximity. That mid-zone is in between the +/- so that’s 
where the electricity happens. 
Don’t get caught looking at her ass or tits. Boring, she thinks. She knows 
that good foreplay starts everywhere else. Let her catch you glancing at 
her neckline, her lips, her wavy and wild mane of black hair. Think about 
how much fun it’d be to grab a handful. She can see it in your eyes. 
Why isn’t he making a move? I know he wants me..doesn’t he? I will have 
to work for this one! 

Touch 
Keep your touch light and subtle. She is a very physical woman and 
would certainly let you manhandle her. But that would kill the tension. 
A man who understands sexual tension, and can handle the electricity 
in the air is sooo sexy to the Seductress. She’s dying to seduce you and 
find out what you are like in bed. 
Treat your touch like a tease. Every once in a while, graze her hand with 
yours. If you are standing close to her (e.g. in a crowded bar or club), 
let your crotch press against her hip or butt for a brief moment. If you 
speak into her eye, make sure she feels your breath against her neck. 
Any incidental brushing against her breasts or ass is extremely exciting, 
as long as you don’t linger, because then you’ve given yourself away. 
Subtle smell her, but don’t say anything. She can feel it.
Back to top that's how u game a sudectress according to the pandora box lol I'm she's he's not any of what I list that ask her these 3 quetions.
If u were a employer and is suppose to pick between picking 1 guys to train fr the job or using about 5 guys and picking the best for at the end of the month what would u do?
2: notice if she have tattoos and smoke or if she's really religious and judgmental of others
3: ask if she had the choice between leaving a job she have to get a better one in another place far from home and leave her family what would she do.
Let me know what ever she picks lol

 

_________________
Ladies killer101


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:39 pm 
Offline
New to MPUA Forum

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:07 pm
Posts: 12
that's all from the Vin dicarlo book ??? and it's not what i asked, i am talking about russian women




Quote:
Y did u neg her? Was she acting like shes the shit? If not than negging isn't needed but do tease her when she does something dorky.
Another thing is how much do u know about this girl? I wanna guess she's a seductress because I'm spend lots of time with girls who are suductress.
Is she someone who is really into getting n protecting her Career, is she someone who Is really independent and want to earn things? If yes she's what we call a realist
2. Does she have more than 1 tatoo, is she comfortable with talking bout sex with people she doesn't know like that, does she drink or smoke? If she's any of those things than shes most likely a justifier.
3. Is she surrounded by lots of guy friends thanks girl friends? If yes she's a tester
If shes all of what I just listed than shes a suductress.
This combination makes 
her a very confident, sexual, independent woman. She is a Diva – not 
in the dramatic sense (she is very level-headed) – but in the sense that 
she is strong, sexy, and has a presence that intimidates a lot of men. 
That’s good news for any guy reading this, as you can move forward 
confidently. Simply understanding her and knowing how to handle her is 
massively attractive, as she sees most men as weak and insecure. This is 
very frustrating to her, as she is very horny, but also very career-focused. 
She doesn’t have time to coddle egos. In sense, her attitude screens out 
the weak. 
If you can keep your cool, not get emotionally needy, and take care of her 
needs sexually, she will be a wild woman – one of the all-time greats in 
your little black book. 
BUT, if you get upset when she is too busy to see you, or you appear 
nervous when talking with her, she will move on. She is not the kind of 
woman you can win back. Once she spots weakness, she is gone, and will 
never see you the same way again. 
This doesn’t mean she is cold-hearted. She just needs a man. You don’t 
have to be super confident, or a stud in bed. You just have to keep your 
cool, and be giving in bed. If you are inexperienced, this woman would 
love to teach you how to please her. 

Her Desires 
Notice that most of this relationship is about sex. That’s because she 
doesn’t have time for much else. She probably isn’t looking for anything 
serious and thinks dating is silly. She wants a man who is her friend, her 
homeboy, respects her time, admires her intelligence and talent, and fucks 
her when she needs it. Not a bad job description… 
Ironically, this is the best way to end up in a serious relationship with her. 
And the relationship terms will be optimal if you are a guy who is on his 
own path and has career and life goals. She won’t demand a lot of your 
time. Mutual respect for each other’s goals is the foundation for a longterm 
relationship. 
She wants the ongoing experience of seducing you. She feels powerful 
when she can use her beauty, energy, and skill to turn you on. She likes to 
perpetually chase, but not in a schoolgirl way. Seducing a man is how she 
gets her power fix. Throughout the week, she will need an ego boost, and 
will need to feel sexy. She gets high knowing that a man is hungry for her, 
not because he is just horny, but because of something she did to excite 
him. WE have some some great techniques to get her in that state. 

How She Gets What She Wants 
The Seductress is surrounded by horny guys. She is sexy and confident, 
and men are handing their balls over left and right (pun intended). This is 
boring. She enjoys the attention to a degree – it’s better to be wanted than 
unwanted. But she is looking for a guy that is a challenge. 
The degree of chasing here is different from the Playette and the Social 
Butterfly. You don’t have to tease her. You don’t have to play any games. By 
staying calm and talking to her like a normal person (no lines, smooth talk, 
or buying drinks), you look like a challenge simply by contrast (to all the 
other clowns chasing her). Typically she will show interest in you at this 
point. She has no problem taking the lead when she wants something (you). 
The Seductress has no problem with sex. Her confidence in her ability to 
seduce and satisfy a man eliminates any fear of appearing easy or slutty. 
She’s not a slut, she’s a Seductress. A slut sleeps with men for attention. 
She sleeps with men because she enjoys it. A slut gets used. A Seductress 
uses men! As Charlie Sheen would say, that’s hot. 
The Seductress may at some point want a family, but she knows that in 
this day and age, a women can’t rely on men to support them. She believes 
in being independent and paying her own bills. She is likely not going to 
be satisfied staying home until after she’s had kids. However, as with all 
women, she has the need to nurture her man in order to strengthen the 
bond. She does this by helping in practical ways (Realist). She can help you 
make professional connections to get your business off the ground. She 
likely knows a lot of people and has a good amount of influence in her field. 
Let her help you, challenge her to seduce you, never lose your cool, and 
respect her. 

Conversation 
Ignition 
An aggressive approach won’t work. But a confident approach will. 
Remember what I said about confidence. She has seen it all, and she 
knows the difference between a macho act and real emotional stability. 
She knows the difference between cockiness and self-assuredness. 
This means you should be very down to earth and casual in your 
approach. She’ll wonder why you aren’t fawning over her like every 
other guy. My favorite way to approach this type of women is to give 
her a genuine compliment, but in a way that says I’m used to beauty 
and it’s not a big deal. 
For example, try locking eyes and telling her in a non-chalant tone, “you 
look nice tonight.” Hold eye contact for one more beat, and look away. 
Nice? NICE? I’m just NICE? Who is this guy? 

Momentum 
Like I said, it’s easy to garner the interest of the Seductress for two 
reasons. First, she loves to chase, to seduce – it’s how she gets her 
power fix. Second, every other guy is groveling to get in her pants. 
So it’s simply a matter of not doing that. She will naturally want to 
conquer you. 
She interprets a man’s dominance by how comfortable he is making fun 
of himself (and her, but to lesser degree). Talk openly about your goals, 
failures, interests, and silly childhood memories, and your most recent 
embarrassing moment. And ask about hers as well. Keep the topic on 
passions, goals, and the mistakes that make us human. 
One other thing – and this takes some experience to cultivate – pull 
your attention away at key moments. Get the sense of when the average 
guy (the old you) would try to make a move or try to say something 
smooth and seductive, and instead, look away and relax your body. 

Connection 
The absolute best topic to talk about with the Seductress is sex. And 
this is where you show your true colors. Where the average guy will 
get overly excited about discussing sex with such a, well, sexy woman, 
you keep your cool. She is always, ahem, sizing you up. There are some 
things she’s looking for. 
She wants to make sure you’re packing a good tool for the job. You don’t 
have to be a pornstar, average, or even less-than average is fine, as long 
as you know how to use it. She interprets boasting and cockiness as 
overcompensation. But if you can laugh at yourself, it means you are 
secure…which implies that you are confident about what you can offer 
her sexually. 
She needs to know that you have stamina. So don’t blow your load, 
conversationally. Don’t convey that you are super interested in her. 
Don’t get giggly and overly excited about sex. Talk about fucking women 
as if you are talking about the weather – no, scratch that – your favorite 
sports team. Here’s why. 
She wants a man who is passionate. It’s no fun to give pleasure to 
someone who is unresponsive. And it’s no fun to think your lover is 
just going through the motions. She needs to know that once she turns 
you on, you will be an animal. Convey this by discussing sex, goals, and 
everything else, with enthusiasm. 
Notice the difference between being horny and passionate. If you 
are telling her about how much you love to watch a woman’s ass 
bounce when you fuck her from behind, talk about it with feeling and 
excitement. But give no indication that you plan on doing this to her. 
She will WANT to be on the receiving end of your passion, and will want 
to MAKE you want to give it to her (and she’s wonderfully frustrated as 
to why you don’t already). 
The last thing she is looking for is a giver. Men are selfish – she knows 
because she’s had a lot of them. She doesn’t need you to be an expert 
on cunnilingus, but she needs to know that you will ravish her body, 
because she is sexy, and she deserves it, dammit! 

Physicality 
Body Language 
One word: mysterious. When you make eye contact, hold it for one extra 
beat than would be “platonic” or polite. Then look away. It’s kind of like 
you are saying, with in that one brief moment, “You want me.” 
Keep a calm, slightly mischievous look on your face, as if you know 
something no one else does, and you are holding back a secret smile. 
You aren’t fooled by her swagger. You know she’s a sex kitten and just 
dying to sink her claws into you. 
Find that distance between up close and personal, and distant and 
uninterested. Stay there. She is highly charged, and very aware of your 
body and proximity. That mid-zone is in between the +/- so that’s 
where the electricity happens. 
Don’t get caught looking at her ass or tits. Boring, she thinks. She knows 
that good foreplay starts everywhere else. Let her catch you glancing at 
her neckline, her lips, her wavy and wild mane of black hair. Think about 
how much fun it’d be to grab a handful. She can see it in your eyes. 
Why isn’t he making a move? I know he wants me..doesn’t he? I will have 
to work for this one! 

Touch 
Keep your touch light and subtle. She is a very physical woman and 
would certainly let you manhandle her. But that would kill the tension. 
A man who understands sexual tension, and can handle the electricity 
in the air is sooo sexy to the Seductress. She’s dying to seduce you and 
find out what you are like in bed. 
Treat your touch like a tease. Every once in a while, graze her hand with 
yours. If you are standing close to her (e.g. in a crowded bar or club), 
let your crotch press against her hip or butt for a brief moment. If you 
speak into her eye, make sure she feels your breath against her neck. 
Any incidental brushing against her breasts or ass is extremely exciting, 
as long as you don’t linger, because then you’ve given yourself away. 
Subtle smell her, but don’t say anything. She can feel it.
Back to top that's how u game a sudectress according to the pandora box lol I'm she's he's not any of what I list that ask her these 3 quetions.
If u were a employer and is suppose to pick between picking 1 guys to train fr the job or using about 5 guys and picking the best for at the end of the month what would u do?
2: notice if she have tattoos and smoke or if she's really religious and judgmental of others
3: ask if she had the choice between leaving a job she have to get a better one in another place far from home and leave her family what would she do.
Let me know what ever she picks lol

 


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:28 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Enthusiast

Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:55 am
Posts: 46
I know it is but it always help me so I was hoping it would help u 2 plus ur not giving me alot to work with here.
U think that the girl ur gaming and otter Russians don't have humor but all girls have humor because negs isn't working I knows this Russian that always makes jokes n stuff, she's never serious about anything so Im not really sure if ur right on that.
Maybe u it was the wrong time of the month lol another thing was she being nice n having a nice conversation when u started to neg? Btw teasing is different from negging so that might be y,maybe thats her shit test. Once meet this girl who called me ugly and that she would never date me when i said hello to her at a pool but I ended up kissing her the same day. Another inner game tip by Tyler is that: never focus at the outcome because everyone have different humor because we were all grown up differently so maybe the girls just don't get ur jokes. So try building lots of comfort with her try teasing ( not negging) when she when she makes silly funny mistake than back it up with something warm so she doesnt mistake u for arrogant.
If teasing doesn't work at all ( which is very unsual) than keep up with comfort and qualifications. I saw this saw weeks ago who didn't understand my humor at all do it was kinda difficult because she wasn't laughing but I ignore her outcomes and keep it fun on my end and she started to open up with me so I than stated to understand her humor.. Turns out she was one of them redneck girls who find silly stupid things funny. Hope I help this time
Ps: go on u tube and watch julien n Tyler fr RSD an they will explain ur problem to y and help u understand it better.

_________________
Ladies killer101


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:42 am 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:11 pm
Posts: 130
Negs aren't to be used on attractive women all of the time. If the situation didn't call for it any woman will get upset at a neg, regardless of her culture. Some things are human nature.

If you know enough to spot a Pandora's Box reference then you should know this. Or perhaps you should be in the field more and reading less.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:46 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Enthusiast

Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:57 pm
Posts: 31
Location: London, England
You have to remember that in Russia there is a shortage of decent men. You often don't need to work as hard with Russian women as you do with western women and negging them may unnecessary lower their self esteem. Also the problem with negging foreign women is that sometimes they might get lost in translation. I've met quite a few russian women and many of them seem very cultured (interested in books, history, museums and all the other boring topics). There are a few that actually appreciate a sense of humour. I would suggest that you should be dominant and always take lead.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link