Hey everyone, I just realised that I have a problem with isolation. A similar situation occured to me twice in the past few days where there's a HB that I want to isolate but we are, let's say, with 1 or 2 of my friends.

It is fair to think that the friend(s) is also interested in the HB so I would like to know how to isolate with a friend around? I mean what would you say that would justify that we both go somewhere else?

I would like it to look legit so it doesn't look like "Dude don't follow us"

Thanks guys!

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just get to know the girl you want to isolate, and ask her out so that she meets you to do something alone without your friend there to begin with, when your out with her alone you can work on building up that compliance, don't worry about escalating around your friend if he is trying to cock block you, there is no real hurry or anything, just have fun around them and don't worry about it

if she knows you well enough and won't hang out with you alone, then there is a really good chance she has no interest in sleeping with you anyway

the more discreet you can be about these things, the better for you

GOOD LUCK

You are absolutely right but let's say that we are in a party. If we are three people (me, HB and a mutual friend), what excuse can I find to isolate the girl then?

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if you absolutely must isolate, why do you need an excuse?, you can do it anyway you want to and you can be open about it, there is no top secret way, but if your buddy is determined to cock block, you can bet he will try

there is no way to predict their reactions, and what you do is not as important as how into you the girl already is (compliance level), how much balls your buddy has, and how determined he is to block your cock and how good your frame control is

if you can absolutely not dream up any way to do this, just say, ''hey (girls name), come with me, I want to show you something cool''

what happens after that is all dependent on how much anxiety you are feeling at the time (how clearly you can think, and how confident you can remain), as well as how good your frame control is

if you are really having trouble, with controlling the frame, just use some simple social constraints, or brutal over the top shock and awe honesty

''say bye to (guys name)''
''it's the polite thing to do''
''it would be rude not to''
''no boys allowed''

so example of constraints

you: hey (girls name), come with me, I want to show you something cool
her: what do you want to show me?
you: it's a surprise, lets go, it would be rude not to

buddy: where you guys going?
you: no boys allowed
buddy: no, seriously, where are you guys going
you: you just stay here, it's the polite thing to do

examples of brutal shock and awe honesty

you: hey (girls name), come with me, I want to show you something cool
her: what do you want to show me?
you: don't be weird, come check this out

buddy: where you guys going?
you: to have sex
buddy: no seriously
you: why you want it in your bum too?, no homo dude

also, if your buddy is giving you a really hard time, but the girl is attracted to you and compliant, just get her to set the constraints, tell her what to tell him, she either complies or doesn't, but it will completely shut him out if she does

buddy: where you guys going?
you: quick (girls name) tell him we are going to bake cookies and he can't come
girls: we are going to bake cookies, sorry you can't come
you: god you're fucking cool *at girl*

now, do not go into this with those examples in your head, it will only fuck you up, there is absolutely no way to tell what they will say or do, but that should give you some ideas of how to control the frame if you are not a creative person, it is important that how you handle tests and objections is congruent to your own frame, make sure it matches your own personality, if you go into this with some preconceived idea of some sort of reaction you want to see, you won't see that reaction, and it will blow your fucking mind and your head will go to fuck and you will have trouble thinking

there is so many other things you could do too, you could start a roll play with her, start calling her your girlfriend for the night, ask her where in the party is she taking you on your first date, do what ever man, just have some fun with it, don't be so serious about getting your p in the v, or you will epically fail, she will smell the neediness off you from a mile away, and you will be all up your own ass trying to think of what to do and say, and end up doing and saying nothing cause you blanked out from putting to much pressure on yourself

take the pressure off yourself, stop worrying about sleeping with this girl, if you are at the party, just have fun, drink some beers, and flirt with that chick and escalate, if your friend becomes a huge problem and your frame control sucks, just attempt an isolate, if not who really cares, get her number and invite her out some other time alone without your friend

What kind of friend cock-blocks his mate? Unless it's a friendly competition, I'd never do that... I think you should talk about this with your mates, or go into sets where there are enough women for everyone.

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Thx guys! In fact I'm not talking about a situation in particular with a specific friend but I'm always spending time with good friends so I will avoid the rude way like "we're having sex, don't come unless you want my cock too".

When I will encounter this situation again I think I'll go with something like "Hey (girl name), come with me I've got something to show you" with probably nothing in mind and then improvise from here. If my friend wants to come too I could say something along the lines of "Stay here we'll be right back!" with the intension of not really comming back.

I think that this way I would not disrespect my friend.

If this situation happens to me and it is some random dude that tries to cock block, the rude way will certainly be an option since I don't care about the guy.

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please re-read this part
as for the honesty being rude, if it comes off rude, then you are saying it the wrong way, if I delivered those lines you can bet I would be in an ecstatic mood, and the frame would more be like me teasing/busting his balls, rather then being butt-hurt and rude, it is hard to translate delivery over text

seriously, don't plan out what you are going to say, right now you have a general idea of what you can do, if you plan out your words, you will be all up your own ass when you are at a point in time to use them, it will leave you unable to express yourself and control the frame, stop it, just relax when you are there and realize you can do nearly anything to isolate, just do it with certainty, the words matter almost 0%, it is how you are feeling about what you are saying and doing as well as the frame around what is happening, also if any guy with half a set of balls wants to cock block you, memorizing this shit won't do anything for you and you are in for a frame battle, and if it is close friends, why try to cut one out at all? you can just flirt with the girl in the open, get her number, and sleep with her some other time, when your friends aren't there, or just wait for them to fall asleep while flirting with the girl all night, then use their bed time as your isolation time, no need to make it happen right then, right there, immediately

GOOD LUCK