No way i'm saying that the game is a lie. I'm into it for 2 and a half years now, lost my virginity because of it, changed my whole life because of it. In fact, my life is the game. I incorporate every aspect of the game in my daily life in a very, very healthy way.

But look..after all this time, i just mastered (kind of) the attraction phase. I suck at C1,C2 and C3.

I'm trying a new approach to it, doing things in a more natural manner. Since i started this new way of doing things (some weeks ago) on this phase, i already got two girls, but no sex whatsoever - jus' pretty hot make outs and finger fucked one of them. In fact, the two dumped me, exactly in the confort phase.

But i saw improvments on both sets, despite the fact that things ended up on nothing.

So, i will keep trying this new approach to confort, but i would like to have some useful, pratical tips on how to build confort in a more natural way. I'm not talking about canned stuff...i'm talking about the dynamic itself.

Do you guys know some article, ebook, post or something which could give me good insights, so i can overcome this sticking point?

It would be jus' awesome, man...and extremely appreciated!

Thanks in advance!


G.

here is my educated guess. Your problem has absolutely nothing to do with building comfort.

Please describe what you consider your sticking /problem point to be and its manifestations/examples.

First of all, thank you very much for yor response!

Making it all short, seems like i'm pretty good in create fast attraction and getting Phone Closes - my looks really help me. I've no problem open sets and getting phones, facebooks, etc.

But after that, i get stucked. A lot of times, day two occurs, but nothing happens after that. The girl that i finger fucked some days ago, for exemple: i menage to get even a Day 4 with her. And she told me that i was the kind of guy that she was searching for. But, all of the sudden, she said that she wasnt feeling good when we went out togheter and dumped me.

i'm pretty good in creating attraction, but when it comes to confort, i got sticking points all over it. Seems like the girls lose attraction when we get at the confort phase. I think that i'm displaying something entirely different from what i first showed them in attraction.. something that they dont like, indeed - otherwise, i would be fucking like a rabit, lol.

Man.. i got so many girls that i PC/KC perfectly... but, after C2 (KC), things go down hill and they end up dumping me, disapearing or giving all that fake ass excuses.

I know that I'M the problem, otherwise this dumping pattern in Confort Phase wouldnt be a constant in my game.

So, that's why i'm considering this a sticking point, and that's why i need to work on it and mastered it, like i did in Attraction for the paste 2 and a half years.

I know its hard work. I know its a long run, but its too late to run now: i love my life and the game too much.

So... now that you know what i'm facing with tangible exemples... how can i overcome it?


Thanks in advance!

BSB

I still dont believe you problem is comfort. If you are good at getting attraction and fast escalation, why are these eventuating in finger fucking? assuming these girls are over 21-23 years old, you should move from rubbing them up, fingers, to oral, to sex in pretty fast order. Are they all just holding out on you after you get them all wet or are you slow in escalating to actual penetration. Thats my first issue.

My suspicion is that after you work attraction you are switching your persona to nice and supplicating guy and thinking that is comfort, and that it is helping your game. I usually just pump attraction until sex, then if I like them I can work on comfort/rapport. If you ae going from sexy good looking cocky funny challenging qualifying mysterious wild bad boy to nice/supplicating guy then the girls are going to see you as fraudulent/incongruent/gaming and this could be your issue. I dont use comfort/rapport to get to sex, as I think that model is inherently problematic, but I understand MM does this, and you often have to with 9's and 10's. You really dont have to use comfort/rapport with 6-8's especially if you are a good looking, cool guy with value.

this is probably an accurate description of the problem, you are getting buyers remorse, here is how you avoid that (until after the f-close)

the solution is probably logistics. I purposely and intentionally dont do dates that are convenient just to the target. If I move from number close to date, im taking the girl to a lounge, time phase shift/location bump/ brief lounge #2, to home for the f-close. So im making the whole process of: date to f-close; happen at one encounter. If you are trying to two step your dates you are certainly gonna loose more f-closes, because girls will change their minds when they get home if you dont have sufficient capability/rapport that is "real" and not just game. I strongly suggest if you get a girl who will have drinks with you in isolation, then change your logistics to facilitate the f-close in one night by a well planned out and effective progression (like the one i illustrated here). As you can see I dont need much comfort/rapport in this progression model, just sufficient attraction and sexual escalation. So if you are good at attraction the good logistics should keep the necessary comfort/rapport to a minimum.

After the f-close I promise nothing.

ps. if you follow this model and you still arnt f-closing enough, send me a PM, ill give you my super secret ISF technique to turn most qualified/attracted woman to f-closes.

all I can think of it that you are moving too quickly and getting buyers remorse like said above.
try slowing it down, getting her to qulaify to you and chase you. like you are the prize. once you reach the tipping point capitalise.
work the logistics in your favour, from your bed reverse engineer it back to the club.
if there is strong attraction and opportunity for discrete sex you will have no issues.
if girls are prepaired to finger fuck they are prepaired to fuck aswell if there is seclusion. if you are not getting it in seclusion read up on LMR
otherwise keep it up bro, often these things fix themselves

Wow....great insights,guys! Thank you very much!

Yeah... i have this never ending problem with logistics! I'm 19 years old, bro... so no logistics whatsoever - jus' a car.

What a 19 years old, who yet live with his parents, can do about this issue?

well that makes more sense if your 19 and these are really young, inexperienced girls, a lot of these issue swill go away by themselves pretty soon, this finger banging nonsense will turn into f-closing with age.

As far as logistics you just have to think of a place with a similar vibe, it may be hard without alcohol as well but im sure you can figure something out, just focus on making it a one night close with smooth logistics and you wont have to rely on much comfort/rapport.

it dusnt need to be complicated just plan backwards from where you want to end up and think of any issues you may have and solutions to said issues

Thank you all for your insights! They are really helping me, guys!

Yeah, but like i said, i'm 19 years old... I DO NOT HAVE ANY LOGISTICS. I mean, i live with my parents, so i cant jus' bring a girl back to my room. I do not have money to fuck them all in hotel rooms. Now, i have a car (got my license 2 weeks ago), so things will start to get better, but anyway... logistics really fucked me over and over again since i started the game. Damn, hate to be young and broke,lol! But i'm working on that as well ; )

Hey, let me say to you guys something: the girl that i finger fucked some time ago, that dumped me.... remeber? She sent me a sms last night... i said some stuff and we are back togheter now.

She said that she dumped me because she is afraid that after i fuck her, i will disappear... She thinks that i'm that kind of guy that fucks the girls and after that dissapears (it's true... since the beginning of this set i heard she saying stuff like that).

So, see guys? I really suck at confort! Otherwise, that kind of thinking would never happen!

unless your parents tell you not to bring girls home take them home. I introduce them if I run into my parents as if they are a girlfriend of mine in a respectfull way.

if home becomes not an option set up an alternitive, Ie a mates place. I dont know your suituation and frankly I dont care, just find one that works. pitch a tent if you have to.

Im not sure what shit is like over there but here in NZ we fuck in the bushes and in cars all the time. all you need is privacy.

drop in a line similar to "I cant stop thinking about you, what have you done to me?" "you have hyjacked my mind" those are powerfull, just take it easy on the second one as its a Mystery quote and may burn you if they know a little about PUA.
it will show that you are not just taking what is on offer but thinking about her aswell. also drop in things like "wow you are really interesting" sparingly. it shows you have interest in Her, not just the two folds of skin between her legs