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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
IT IS AGAINST THIS BOARD'S RULES TO POST THREADS ABOUT JUST ONE GIRL
If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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Laden
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:03 pm 
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As soon as I manage an approach, the conversation flows pretty smoothly and I almost always close. I love building comfort, using kino and humor to build attraction and closing. My sticking point is my approach and AFTER a close.

I just got out of a 2 year relationship about a month and a half ago. I decided to get back into the field. For my day of approaches, I was a nervous wreck. I use the 3 second rule, but I was always nervous as fuck. The next week, I just decided to open every single idle person I saw while doing errands, which helped alleviate some AA, and I managed to get a few solid number closes. Up to know, I've stuck with these.

Out of the 6 number closes, I ended up going out with 3 of them. When I take a girl out, I have an easy time building attraction. I f-closed 2 and the 3rd one I'm just taking my time with. After the f-close, I go back to being a nervous wreck, I guess you could call it needy. I notice I'm doing it but I can't stop it and the neediness just comes out. I lost both of the girls I f-closed. They didn't respond to my text or call (called once first, waited a day or two and then texted and still no response).

I'm just approaching every girl I find attractive. Usually if she's an idiot or I'm not interested in the convo, I exit ASAP. I'm still nervous as fuck during the approach, but if I manage to spark her attention, the conversation ends up going smoothly. This is how I'm fixing my AA. Does the nervousness ever go away? As for after a close, anyone have advice?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:40 pm 
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I did some searching I found something "Wolf" said on the website and I think it pretty much answers my question in case anyone else had the same problem as me.
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Neediness is a manifestation of insecurities. When you show your insecurities by acting jealous, being uncomfortable when she talks about other guys, becoming agitated when she reschedules plans, and reacting in fear of the thought that she might leave you. You avoid neediness by having an active social life and by attaining an abundance mentality. "If it doesn't work out with THIS girl, then there will be other girls who will be just as awesome."

It is a good thing to let women know when you are sexually attracted to them. To hide those feelings is just another way of displaying insecurities. You maintain your non-needy frame by being outcome independent (i.e. being able to brush off any negative reactions).

It's okay to do nice things for girls, when they treat you well and they deserve it. Needy guys forget this and get way to emotionally invested in women they don't really know all that well (like a guy I met who's been known to tell girls he loves them, on the second date). If a girl is awesome and treats you awesome, then it's okay to emotionally invest in them, to hang out with them more frequently and to compliment them.

Hopefully, that sheds some light on the subject.

-Wolf
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and another thing "Eyyt" mentioned regarding getting rid of neediness...
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Simple. dont chase. make THEM chase YOU. Create hoops and let them jump in. they love doing that. It conveys leadership. Be happy and fun. Love what you do. Ever heard of telepathy? putting what you want as a frame and let them know it subconsiously. Another example but a rare instance when i seduced a girl without talking. Thats right! no words involved. i just made the right eye contact, dominant but approachable stance in a comfortable position then, voila, had the girl kiss me (note, i look young and not goodlooking). the point is that you should not worry about them. have fun and it will send positive vibes, it will do most of the attraction for you.
GL ya'll
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