Just as I have a routine I like to use just as my buddies have one to. They wait for someone else in the group to open a set. Doesn't matter where, but they will hang back at a safe distance and watch. When things are moving along usually as I'm trying to DHV they come over and start cutting me down and trying to impress the HB by one upping each other. In the end we look like a group of AFC's. Without completely ditching them how can I pick up chicks. It isn't just 1 or 2 of my friends, but the entire group. Running day game by myself is fine, but on weekends or evenings it isn't really normal for one guy to go to a crowded pub or club alone. I've tried explaining the role of wingman to them and straight up telling them not to come lurking over like a pack of creeps.

Since I can't solve the problem how can I use it to my advantage?

Say the girl you are in a social project of socializing kids with mental problems (i.e: your friends :p), oki that was kidding basically I think you should to try to isolate the girls asap.

Or tell your target that your friends are a bunch of loser that dont know how to act and ignore then when they come over. Trust me it worked for me in the same situation. Then your friends come over trying to be all cool and stuff but the girl literally ignores the shit out of them.
Then you reisolate and hopefully this time they would of got the hint

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I think your friends are scavengers and they dont really care about you at all. I think you need to make it clear to them that how they are acting unacceptable. Have a serious talk with them one by one, make them feel asshamed of how they are acting.

I mean if they get mad at you for doing that, well then they arent really your friends. You should punish bad behavior!!! I mean make a scene break shit up if u have too... And if they show signs of intelligence then be kind to those who feel remorse. For the others, fuck them you dont need assholes as friends.

Until then, dont be a push over and let them make a donckey out of you. Besides assholes will ultimately betray you as soon they have a chance to anyways, so dont even bother to keep the friendship up.

ya i would confront your friends, first off, for being such asses and cockblockin you. thats something a friend would not do. and if things continue like this, dont stop hanging out with them, but find a wing or a different crew to sarge with.

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WHat you have to do is ditch your friends lol or just not hang around them when your trying to pick up girls. Sorry for bad news lol

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I got the same problem with my main friends. One of the two will just act AFC if I don't specifically instruct him what to say and when to come into the set. he's good with dancing so usually what he foolishly does is just come to me after i'm about 2-3 mins into the set, and he'll start dancing with me randomly..

This makes me look like weird for ignoring him, but if I don't ignore him and start dancing away the set will disappear. Usually what I do is just laugh about it to the set and say "He's just an alcoholic, but he's a fun guy to be with when he's sober". So I don't completely rule him out because if I imply that I have idiot friends, this DLVs me.

We're trying to fix that, and he's learning so I believe eventually he'll understand.

The other friend is just a weirdo. At school he used to be really big and constantly eating so no girl would pay attention to him. At the same time he's a single kid so he's used to having all the attention from his parents and stuff, therefore his problem is that he can not have anyone else being above him socialwize in a group. At the same time, he's just an AFC when it comes to opening and stuff, he's the kind of person to just stare like a weirdo without opening a set all night.

He'll just pop out of nowhere and when he starts talking, he'll actually neg ME and will almost always take the side of the girls when I have them in a push-pull situation. You know the point where a girl will give you small pushes and punch you giggling and stuff for something funny/smart you said to her, he'll punch me as well and laugh and say crap like "omg dude, you're such a dork" and just try to "connect" with the set a bit more by being on their "side". Obviously this does not ever bring him results, and at the same time lowers my chances of a successful #close or bounce.


I have told him off a million times and have now reached the point where I will open sets and specifically instruct him NOT to join the set at all. Its frustrating me because it has ruined at least 3 out of the last 10 sets I've opened, maybe even more.

The other day me and a friend had a group of 4 girls all into us and they seemed to have a nice time, we had already started showing more interest to the targets as we were about 45mins into the set, there was some heavy kino etc... And there he ruins it all by taking 2 lollipops out of his pocket, and guess who he gives them to!!! Our 2 girls!!!! I mean, wtf was that about? He started dancing with them and the girls looked at each other, danced a bit but they seemed a bit frustrated and eventually said nice meeting you guys and left..

I'm still learning so I can't exactly do damage control well.. but I'm sick and tired on focusing on damage control from my own friends, instead of focusing on my game..

if there like true buddies just tell them to back off of u from now on im sure they will understand

[quote="midisle"]Since I can't solve the problem how can I use it to my advantage?

If you sarging: "Bro's before Ho's" never never never bring this shit up again. It is a worse DLV !!! It will destroy your game, STOP IT.

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Without completely ditching them how can I pick up chicks

"They show all AFC signs don't sarge with these guys before they step up their game" And you should work on being Alpha, don't never take shit like that from nobody even if they are your friends. Have a word with them and try freezing em out if they don't take it serious.

Start hanging out with pick up artists or your game will forever suffer. It's so true because only a PUA challenges you to strive to achieve the best in meeting women. AFC's are worthless to hang out with and meet women unless they're trying to change.

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first try some AMOG destroyer techniques... its shitty to do to your friends, but a pua has to do what a pua has to do... it sucks to have to compete with your friends, but remember, your the king of the group... FUCKING ACT LIKE IT.

second, if they're still doing it, pull them aside, and tell them what your trying to do, and why what they're doing is undermining it. some guys will listen, some won't. If they don't proceed to three.

THIRD. if, after all of this they're still being afc, embarrass them in front of the set. your probably going to blow out the set, but fuck it. When your friend says or does something to cock block you, stop the conversation and say "look <insert name> I'm trying to have a nice conversation with my new friends here, and your acting like a five year old. stop trying to hit on them, it isn't working, because your acting like a chump. If you can't pull it together and act your age, then i'm going to stop introducing you to girls."

FOURTH. if none of that works, stop sarging with them around. tell them your going to the bathroom, head to another part of the club, and sarge away.

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Use them as a DHV by saying something like...these guys follow me everywhere, im kinda like their leader. Or something along those lines and then AMOG them until they feel awkward and leave, but be sure that you dont come across like a jerk.

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Formerly Titan42

Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.

there is no way in the world he will do all what you told him to do without coming on as a jerk...if i did that to my friends ( who aren't cockblocks btw)...they might laugh about it at that point in time..but i wud defo get called out on it later on.

Most of my friends are naturals anyways.