hey guys, so over the last little while I've hit a sticking point. I've gone up to girls in the bar and I used my opinion opener, which I find works well for getting attention from the girls and then I get to hear their opinions, but after that I dont know how to transition into mid game or creating attraction or anything like that. and because of it. the conversation leaves:

1. a nice long awkward silence
2. me saying I am going to go meet up with my friends or go get a drink etc...
3. them say go ask other people and let us know how it goes.
4. them saying they have to go to the bathroom or something like that.

what can i do to transition better? please help

What method or who's method are you following OR are you just piecing things together via the forum? The reason I ask is because if you are following a method from Sinn, Gambler, Adam, Mystery...this is typically addressed for quite a bit in their books and materials to help you with that.

If you are just on the forum trying to piece the method together, why re-invent the wheel so to speak? Find a method you think you'll like and stick to it until you are proficient with it. Then expand on to other people and techniques.

The reason I suggest this is for the very reason of your questions. If we get you past the opinion opener then you'll be stuck on DHV stories...then maybe kino, or isolation, or handling the group or whatever. Rather than have to constantly piece it together all new, why not borrow someones method for a while to get better?

It'll probably save you a lot of time and frustration!

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Thats very smart, I'm using an opener called "The two-part kiss opener" found in the rules of the game writen by Neil Strauss, i've switched some of the words around a bit because i cant remeber it word for word, and if I try to do so then i look like I'm trying recite something. and then the ladies know I'm trying to pick them up.

I will try learning the techniques from Sinn, Gambler, Adam, and Mystery, which one do you recommend the most for the absolute beginner?

thank you for your help

I'd start with Mystery to be honest. It allows for a solid base and framework. Sinn & Adam have some really deep and revolutionary ideas about gaming but they are definitely not for the beginner in terms of concepts and ideas. Mystery has an entire A to Z method that is repeatable and easy to use. It also gives you a structure to follow which is really important when you are trying to figure out where you are in the process. That is something a lot of people struggle with later on.

Yes he uses a lot of canned lines as well but you can write your own material or borrow some other less common openers from the forum. One of the things I'd recommend you work on is find 2-3 openers you like and practice them out loud over and over again. Remember you don't want it to come off as if you are reciting something, you want it to sound natural and unrehearsed. Just like an actor repeating his lines until it flows and becomes part of him...you will do the same thing.

Best of luck!

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Ahhh i think I'm starting to get it, where can i find more of Mystery's stuff and the method?
so would I be able to do this? 1. do my opener, 2. introduce myself, 3. ask them what they do? is that kind of the method? for attracting getting numbers and kisses?

You want to buy the book or see if you can find a online pdf copy of the book "Mystery Method: How to get beautiful women into bed."

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cool, I will do that, thank you for your help