Hi all

Theres a girl at my kickboxing training I'm having a bit of a problem with...

Everything was going fine, she wanted to train with me one on one all the time and we talked abit. Not really afraid from any competition from the other kickbxing guys (or at least I wasn't before a little while ago..).

I made the great mistake of telling her my age... Usually that wouldn't be a problem. But this is how it went:

"So I got into the club **** for the first time this weekend, it was much better than the others!"

"Yeah? First time huh?"

Me: "Yup, i just got a new fake I.D, look" (shows her card)

"Hehe, yeah that cool but... how old are you really?"

"53"

"haha, no really"

"okk... I'm 19."

"Now guess how old I am"

"I don't know. 20?" (I jumped right through the hoop, and i guessed to low...)

"no"

"21...? 22...? 23!?"

"yep".

"wow".

"You wanna train a bit more?"

"ok! "

"Hehe, sorry i actually have to go to the bus, but do you wanna come"

(a bit pissed that she was toying with me, but not showing it): "Nah... can't"

(a bit sad): "ok"...

I stay for a bit she goes, meet her at the bus station later anyways, act like i don't see and hear her (was listening to music).

Turn to look around, act like i suddenly see her, wave go and sit beside her.

I DLV a guy at the training that i had to train with when she wasn't there, she laughs says she had to train with him too when i wasn't there, I show some funny movements he does we laugh. Busses come, shes says:

"So, which bus do you take?" (i know she already knows the answer to this..."

"001, and you take 005"

"yeah..."

We walk to the busses say good bye and go home.

I did a slight bit of kino with her but I'm having problems. I jumped through the age hoop and she now knows I'm 19... and I guessed her age too low...

+ kino is a bit difficult because everytime we meet we're all sweaty and stuff... NOT nice. Don't wanna ask her number AT ALL, is there any way to fix this? I know that some attraction is there, but its hard to build on it when i can't kino escalate...

I'm planning on doing the cube on her next time we're waiting for the bus together. Girls seem to REALLY dig that one for some reason. Any other suggestions to what i can do?

Yea you have some attraction there. But you don't need kino if the time isnt right pluss a hug goodbye won't be a bad idea. What you need to do is number close so can build good rapport with her about things like her thoughts on life, her family ect. O and your passed the beginging stages so no need to be so hooked on dlvs neggin ect now all you have to do is avoid the LBFZ and you do that by being in her life. and you cant do that without a number freind. Hope this helps this is what works for me. I'm sure others will help as well.
Ps. cube idea is great to show your interesting

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BRENT AKA "HOLLYWOOD"

ok, next training sess, heres your plan of attack. dont train with her. say hi when you walk in, but go talk with a diff group of people. train with other people, then when you leave, go with her and a group of people to the bus stop. AMOG that shit, dont give her much attention, dont neg her if you havent yet, cuz then you might come accross as like fake and just enjoying the attention. ok maybe once, but no more! then when you get to the bus stop, appologize for ostrasizing her, sit down next to her, and have a convo seperate from the group. rule the convo, make it yours. then offer for her to maybe come back with you to your place for dinner. she can take a shower there, borrow some clothes of yours, and you cook a sweet kick ass dinner. then sit down and watch a movie, and BOOM the night is yours.

best of luck to ya,

PB

oh but if she cant go for w/e reason, just play it off. "ok your loss, this offer wont last forever."

k go succede!

wow, i love this site!

That was some great advice guys, thanks!

Just a couple of questions, I DO NOT want to be in the ljbfz.... I've been in that one before (though after reading the game the girl seems more interested in me than her boyfriend even when he's there )...

But what i did wrong was that i was in her life last time... I just didn't touch her. Ever. So i agree with the being in her life, but i really think i need some kino here, thats where i think prettyboys advice is great. But the number close isn't a bad idea, but I'm not sure how to do it...

I can't use the "how can we continue this conversation?", because she'll just say "we can talk next kickboxing training". And the "write something creative" seems too much like i'm hitting on her.

To prettyboy, I haven't trained with her for two sessions (not by myown choice but i didn't look at her at all while training, but i know she looked at me a couple of times). So if next time i say "i don't want to train with you" or ignore her i think it might be a bit strange? or what do you guys think?

and btw all the others don't take the bus. So we sit alone if i wait for the bus with her. Thats why i thought i'd do the cube to seem interesting (like you said hollywood).

The dinner plan would be great if it wasn't for the fact that we end pretty late (10 in the evening). and we have lectures the next day... So she would have a legite reason to say no...

you need a change of setting. this will be a quick test of whether shes really intrested in you or not. just mention that you are going to this cool club with some friends this weekend and that she should come. another one i use is just mention that i really want to see this or that movie, and if you have good taste, she will usually say the same, or she may have seen it, but if she hasnt and she agrees, just take it as an IOI and suggest that you go see it together. thats what i would do.

thanks man! I'll do that!

I just remembered, we have kickboxing training tomorrow but its student day so students usually go out clubbing!

So if i meet her at kickboxing I'm gonna just be completely calm but when we're waiting for the bus I'll tell her that I found a new place, a great bar (true story), and if she doesn't want to go I'll just say "ok, have a nice time at home".