After Opening how to go from attraction to comfort



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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:44 am 
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Field report

Today I went to a party where I entered the room.
I went to practice on the opening and that went well. Used the tips from the first two videos of Mystery's mind. I did not open with a question, but a statement then I took some distance and came closer during the call. This worked very well, namely the lady came to me instead of the other way around. What I noticed was that I dropped pauses during calls and that therefore the lady came to me. However, it failed to go further then opening and a little bit comfort building. Sometimes I came here with nothing, no ioi picked on but sometimes I was just going too fast making them throw IOD's at me. Few times there was a cockblocker girlfriend of the target. This was difficult to resolve because the cock blocker was on a distance where they can get to the target.I tried to put her in the conversation but it wouldnt work.
Go think about it. Some tips to get ahead? What I can do better ?

Openers that I used:
Situational: Hey, what do you think of the music?

Jealous girlfriend open: best friend - pictures of his ex (I think of style)


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However, it failed to go further then opening and a little bit comfort building
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no ioi picked on but sometimes I was just going too fast making them throw IOD's at me.
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Few times there was a cockblocker girlfriend of the target.
I am not against routines or anything but in this case, I would say that it fucked you up. ^ Look how gamey you are? It is like you are in a battle. this shit should be fun and not forced.

Think of her friend as a way to help rather than an obstacle. Be charming, don't be afraid to show interest. Women like to be desired. You have nothing to lose since you mentioned that she was throwing disinterest at you the whole time despite your arsenal of negs.

I really think game as has evolved since the mystery days in my opinion. It defo appeals to the analytical nerdy type of people but everyone evolves from it eventually in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:53 pm 
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Thanks for the message.

What is the best way to start learning correct?

In theory I know everything but in real life I get stuck after opening.

How can I train myself ?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:43 pm 
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Thanks for the message.

What is the best way to start learning correct?

In theory I know everything but in real life I get stuck after opening.

How can I train myself ?

Hey

I don´t think that there is a "correct" way, it always depends on the situation and on the girl.
I know the problem with the missing words after opening. :wink: If you really don´t remember something you could go on with(it will always work)....let me guess, you are from...bla bla....ohhh, I have heard the girls there are really strange/chesty/interesting. I have never been there, but I am very interested in culture/restaurants/bars....what could you recommend? blabla...and so on and so on :D

And I personally think you could only train by making "strokes"...one girl...one stroke 8)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:21 pm 
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Maybe the problem is that you were not accepted by the girlfriend, so you have lower value. It's amazing when women are little bit shy and their girlfriends push them at you (if you earned the girlfriend's interest).
In your case, maybe you should ask your target to meet you with her friend
"hey, are you going to introduce me to your friend, that's the polite thing to do."
You don't give us more information about what was your state, how did u look, what did you do, after her friend joins.
Also from your topic's name i think you misunderstand the Attraction and Comfort phases. The attraction is not just opening. It also includes female to male interest A2 and after that male to female interest A3.
The comfort is where you are alone with the girl and start building raport.
What I understood from your situations is that you opened a girl, talked a little, NO IOIs, instead even you got IOD's and you're gone. Her friend cockblocked you and you couldn't deal with the leadership.
The problem is not in the phrase you used, instead of the state you were and the game you had. Don't worry , just practice more.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:43 pm 
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You are being SO gamey. This is going to set off red flags immediately.

Girls do not want to be picked up rigidly. They want to be charmed in a light laid back fashion.

I read your title "After opening, how to go from attraction to comfort". My answer to this is the same answer i give all my students, and that is, you dont build comfort, you bring it with you from the get-go! Attraction is also present from the moment you walk up to her...why? Because you should be feeling attraction towards her.

Instead of TRYING to get her attracted to you by pressing buttons and treating her like a cyborg, you should be focusing on being curious about her so you can find out if she is someone you want to continue speaking to.

Trust me when i say that, your opener...doesnt matter. How you are feeling when you open...does matter. Seduction is 3/4s curiosity.

Stop seeing the girl as a set, or as practice for openers....which is ridiculous. If you go out to practice opening....thats all you ever get....the opener. Go out to charm, connect with, and make women feel sexy!!

Pick up is not the way to do that!! You are awesome the way you already are, you just need some more beneficial ways of looking at women and interacting with them. Healthy ones....NOT pick up tactics. she is not a army that needs to be disarmed or manipulated. :)

Good luck,
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:34 am 
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Very good way to describe this, I will save this for later.
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You are being SO gamey. This is going to set off red flags immediately.

Girls do not want to be picked up rigidly. They want to be charmed in a light laid back fashion.

I read your title "After opening, how to go from attraction to comfort". My answer to this is the same answer i give all my students, and that is, you dont build comfort, you bring it with you from the get-go! Attraction is also present from the moment you walk up to her...why? Because you should be feeling attraction towards her.

Instead of TRYING to get her attracted to you by pressing buttons and treating her like a cyborg, you should be focusing on being curious about her so you can find out if she is someone you want to continue speaking to.

Trust me when i say that, your opener...doesnt matter. How you are feeling when you open...does matter. Seduction is 3/4s curiosity.

Stop seeing the girl as a set, or as practice for openers....which is ridiculous. If you go out to practice opening....thats all you ever get....the opener. Go out to charm, connect with, and make women feel sexy!!

Pick up is not the way to do that!! You are awesome the way you already are, you just need some more beneficial ways of looking at women and interacting with them. Healthy ones....NOT pick up tactics. she is not a army that needs to be disarmed or manipulated. :)

Good luck,
Chris


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:13 pm 
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Yeah this was really a eye "opener"

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