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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:38 pm 
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I am currently a provider aka the guy that always gets friend zoned or beta male shamed. There have been few times that I have not been the beta male and I would say that it is mostly luck. This video goes into a lot of detail about shaming and lover vs provider but doesn't really give any examples of how to fix it. I was wondering if anyone had any links they could give me to fix this part of my game.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8 ... tppsE1jL4g


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:34 am 
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Beta male or shaming is just what he says "a box for them to try & put you into"

I found that he was right, keep them guessing about who you really are & its like trying to catch a greased up pig. The pig enjoys the attention & the crowd gets a laugh.

This could be a purely inner game issue for you.

Look to develop things in your life that are just for you, hobbies, guy friends & look to make friends with people who are nothing like you.

Come up with 3 to 5 things to say or do when this subject comes up. Tell them you (make up a profession) & you race monster trucks. Pick a hobby & riff off that. I used to joke with women I met online that I was a Wild Ballerina Tamer & then I would act indigent or insulted when they tried to call me on it.

You will get spotted as a nice guy because you probably are, learn to camouflage yourself as a bad guy.

You are the nice Yellow Lab & you need to dress like the Wolf... make sense?

A friend of mine takes off his glasses when he goes out & this has an amazing effect on him. He can see enough to tell its a girl but not enough to tell how attractive she is so her beauty is a blur to him & he can relax.

Completely change the clothing you wear when you go out, if you get beta male shaming dress a bit more stylish & rarely smile. Think about how James Bond looks, squinty eyes & always headed somewhere else.

Keep them guessing on who you are & get to work on your inner boy, the boy must die for the man to live.

Hope that helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:55 am 
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Just make moves quickly. First date go for the lay. You getfriendzoned when you wait too long.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:22 pm 
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Yes, neo is right. Generally speaking the most obvious difference between the beta and the alpha guy is that the beta guy hopes he will get something if he acts according to illusionary standards, and the alpha guy just goes for what he wants within legal boundaries.

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