I know there are thousands of threads on this, but I think getting my sticking point answered directly will help me more.

Anyways, I have trouble making moves. Recently I've graduated to being able to grab a girls hand and lead her somewhere. I've also mastered the number close, but the flake rate is high.

I feel like theres just this escalation barrier I can't pass. I dont know how to kino to lead to a kiss or even sex... I'll be social with a girl, consciously know that I need to escalate, but unable to see HOW. I need some tips, il try anything

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Two words: Carpe Diem

when going for a kiss, the most important thing is eye-contact imo. and also i use a lot of teasing (if necessary, if you already have plenty ioi's then just go for it). When teasing her, you can most of the time if there is attraction, make her push you or punch you in that "oh you are so annoying, but i like it"-way, and then you can get closer while maintaining the eye contact, and go for it, the slower the better. good luck

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My mind have an idea of what i deserve - i will go beyond it

Good advice, but I was looking for more of a solution to the barriers I feel bar escalation. A mindset or truth that will help me know whens a good time to make a move. I thought I was past this honestly, but without actually being able to escalate to something frater than holding I feel stuck

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Two words: Carpe Diem

There is no right time to make a move, you have to make that time.

Be playful at all times. For example, push her gently when she says something funny or just touch her shoulder, play with her hair when she gets intimate, hug her when she says something amazing, just do anything in order to break that touch barrier between you both. The more you touch her, the more secure she'll feel around you. When you reach that level, try to be physically closer to her while talking (sit closer to her) so that your body is touching hers. She'll directly start getting turned on. At that point, you have to take the risk of all in. You gaze from the eyes to the lips in a triangular motion, if she keeps looking for more than two seconds or so, go for the kiss.

That's personally how I do it, and it works.

In short, you should be willing to risk something to get everything.
If you don't risk it, you'll never know if you would've succeeded or not, and it'll haunt you all the time.

Hope this helped

Sound advice mate!

Hold her hand and play with her fingers.

If she plays with your fingers too, then at this point, all you have to do is not fuck it up

You need to have a fee weekends of being the sleazy guy to find the boundaries. This is the final missing piece to your game. But also the most crucial. Learn it or wank

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