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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:32 pm 
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Okay, so I'm a college guy who loves going to parties to meet girls. After reading through some of the books on pickup (The Game, The Tao of Badass, The Attraction Code, The Art of Seduction), I can't say that I'm as awkward as I used to be. I feel like I understand women more nowadays.

On to the sticking point. At the last party I attended I did pretty well for myself. I kiss closed two girls, with barely any effort. But after that, my problem was keeping them around. I always see guys with girls that get into them, and then proceed to be attached to them for the rest of the night. In my case however, it seemed like after I kissed them I was the one who ended up chasing after them for the rest of the night.

I know this is wrong, but I didn't expect it because I figured that I sealed the deal.

How do I flip this and become the guy that these girls follow around all night?

Thanks a lot guys.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:05 am 
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Are you a bad kisser or something? Make it interesting, keep it sexual. Don't just kiss, touch her all over during the kiss and make her get comfortable around you as in sitting on your lap or something. If you're standing up kissing her against a wall don't be afraid to grab her hand and go somewhere more comfortable.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:13 am 
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Are you a bad kisser or something? Make it interesting, keep it sexual. Don't just kiss, touch her all over during the kiss and make her get comfortable around you as in sitting on your lap or something. If you're standing up kissing her against a wall don't be afraid to grab her hand and go somewhere more comfortable.
I've been thinking about it, and I think you're headed in the right direction. As far as I know I'm a pretty good kisser, but you know I probably didn't give her enough, like the kiss was probably too short. Does that sound right?


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Well, a lot of people think they're good kissers when they're not. A good way to really know is if a girl really wants more from you and you can move her quickly from kiss to the bed or she starts getting really into you. A kiss is like a taste of what's to come. If you're a really good kisser a woman is going to notice and want more, if you're not she's gonna bail.

When I grew up the "washing machine" was the general accepted kissing pattern but I hated it. I massage the tongue with mine and don't completely invade and take over her mouth. There's also how you hold the woman so it's not just kissing that's important here. You need to physically escalate as well and keep kino up while not being afraid to touch her or be more intimate while kissing. Also, get rough. Women love it when a guy is playfully rough with them especially in teasing. Pull back from kissing, get her lip in your teeth lightly and tug a bit on it for a split second then kiss her lips and move to her neck, nibbling at the sweet spots there(Just under and behind the ear then down towards the shoulders). She will end up begging you to fuck her there and then.

It's very powerful. Get that down and tease her. Let her know you're in control and you know she likes what you're doing. She'll comply and get a kick out of it. It will seriously turn her on. Be aware of her breathing patterns. When she starts slowing down and takes deep breaths you're doing it right. When that happens that's the cue to go in and be more forceful with her(Bite harder on her neck but don't do it to hurt her, let her know you're applying more pressure).

Also, be slow and deliberate. Don't be afraid to pull back slowly and look her in the eyes. She'll go absolutely insane for you. Don't be afraid to stop either, especially when she's REALLY getting into it. It's much better to tease the ever living crap out of her this way by giving her a taste of what you can do then just stopping and giving her a sexy look. When you do this these girls will be begging for your dick and if they won't go back with you they'll take you seriously when you call or text them the day after. They will remember the encounter.

And be a confident bastard. Tell her she likes it "You like that don't you."(You're not asking a question, you're demanding she comply) She will be putty in your hands, take deep, slow breaths and take time to answer you. She'll be in a trance. You can literally make her do anything when you get her to this state. It's incredibly easy once you get enough practice in and no man ever does it!


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Well, a lot of people think they're good kissers when they're not. A good way to really know is if a girl really wants more from you and you can move her quickly from kiss to the bed or she starts getting really into you. A kiss is like a taste of what's to come. If you're a really good kisser a woman is going to notice and want more, if you're not she's gonna bail...
Wow, thanks for the advice man. I know I could have done better, but I think I held back because I started to notice all of the people in the party around us.

But you're saying don't be afraid to touch her, and be more sexual? I really hear you on that one, but the only thing I worry about is the woman pulling back because she thinks you want too much. Is that an issue, or is that just me thinking in the wrong perspective?

On another note, I see guys who get women to trail them before even kissing them, how does that work (Hopefully that's not a tangent)?


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Well, a lot of people think they're good kissers when they're not. A good way to really know is if a girl really wants more from you and you can move her quickly from kiss to the bed or she starts getting really into you. A kiss is like a taste of what's to come. If you're a really good kisser a woman is going to notice and want more, if you're not she's gonna bail...
Wow, thanks for the advice man. I know I could have done better, but I think I held back because I started to notice all of the people in the party around us.

But you're saying don't be afraid to touch her, and be more sexual? I really hear you on that one, but the only thing I worry about is the woman pulling back because she thinks you want too much. Is that an issue, or is that just me thinking in the wrong perspective?

On another note, I see guys who get women to trail them before even kissing them, how does that work (Hopefully that's not a tangent)?
Wrong perspective. When you close the game is over. You've already gamed her. If you want to fuck her it's pure interest and sexual escalation, the most important of which is kissing. When you k-close the last thing on your mind should be running game. It should just be kissing the chick and getting her sexually aroused. She's already kissing you so she's not going to be thinking "This guy really wants to kiss me" she's going to either enjoy it or she's not and if she's enjoying it anything goes until you hit LMR(Going for f-close).

By get physical and sexual escalate I mean be more physical and don't be afraid of it even if others are around. That doesn't mean start fingering her there and then but grab her ass, press your hard dick against her thigh when you're kissing her(Get in real close, don't be ashamed of your hard on) and position your hands appropriately.

Ideally, at least for me, I control the woman. I lead her into it, it's autopilot for me at this point. I'll grab her hands and put them around my neck then grab her by her waist gently. It gives me freedom to move anywhere around her body with no resistance. I'll be making out with her, legs locked into her, chest a small bit apart, her arms around my neck and my hands on her sides. If I get closer i'll move one of my hands to the small of her back and then work my way towards her ass. With the other hand i'll move it up slightly toward her ribs and get closer to her breast. I'll do this simultaneously, deliberate and with confidence. She won't be able to resist, she won't have the excuse unless she pulls back and completely breaks contact with you(Which won't happen if she's enjoying the kiss).

Starting off: Draw her in, hold her hands, slowly place them around your neck then place your hands on her waist but gently, don't dig into her or hold her firmly just yet(Do that when you really get things heated up and start biting/nibbling her neck and lips). Then kiss her.

Simple. The rest should start to come to you and you'll get a feel for what she's into and what she isn't into but most women are crazy about being bitten especially if you do it playfully to tease them. It puts them in a trance.


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