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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:28 pm 
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So, uh, I've always been sociophobic, maybe I'm overanalysing this but imagine this situation:

I'm out with my girl. (she doesn't mind I get called out by assholes because I'm intelligent and have a future.)
This guy, from her class starts calling me out etc.
He's fucking buff, extremelly arrogant and definitelly will always AMOG me.
If I don't let him, I might get beaten up.
He's REALLY stupid and that makes it even worse for me. (arrogance makes stupid people unstable and forces them to compensate through other means... beating people up?)
If I went near him I'd get pissed off instantly, I WANT to punch him in the face, but even if I've been doing sports for months now, he's way too buff for me to handle.

How would you deal with people like that?
Ignoring would work fine as a temporary fix but I'd get sick of it sooner or later.
I don't think he has any respect for others so I can't try making him respect me.
He does ALOT of things against me. e.g. Made my surname into a swear word. -___-
Calls me out ALL of the time.
Obvious Alpha personallity with huge traits of stupid.

So... any tips? I'm working out right now to fix my physical.
Would a come-back of some sort work?


NOTE: This happens consistently with multiple people, so I thought of it as a sticking point for me. Just REALLY bothering my game and my life.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:11 pm 
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So, uh, I've always been sociophobic, maybe I'm overanalysing this but imagine this situation:

I'm out with my girl. (she doesn't mind I get called out by assholes because I'm intelligent and have a future.)
This guy, from her class starts calling me out etc.
He's fucking buff, extremelly arrogant and definitelly will always AMOG me.
If I don't let him, I might get beaten up.
He's REALLY stupid and that makes it even worse for me. (arrogance makes stupid people unstable and forces them to compensate through other means... beating people up?)
If I went near him I'd get pissed off instantly, I WANT to punch him in the face, but even if I've been doing sports for months now, he's way too buff for me to handle.

How would you deal with people like that?
Ignoring would work fine as a temporary fix but I'd get sick of it sooner or later.
I don't think he has any respect for others so I can't try making him respect me.
He does ALOT of things against me. e.g. Made my surname into a swear word. -___-
Calls me out ALL of the time.
Obvious Alpha personallity with huge traits of stupid.

So... any tips? I'm working out right now to fix my physical.
Would a come-back of some sort work?


NOTE: This happens consistently with multiple people, so I thought of it as a sticking point for me. Just REALLY bothering my game and my life.
Serious question... How old are you?


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:21 pm 
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So, uh, I've always been sociophobic, maybe I'm overanalysing this but imagine this situation:

I'm out with my girl. (she doesn't mind I get called out by assholes because I'm intelligent and have a future.)
This guy, from her class starts calling me out etc.
He's fucking buff, extremelly arrogant and definitelly will always AMOG me.
If I don't let him, I might get beaten up.
He's REALLY stupid and that makes it even worse for me. (arrogance makes stupid people unstable and forces them to compensate through other means... beating people up?)
If I went near him I'd get pissed off instantly, I WANT to punch him in the face, but even if I've been doing sports for months now, he's way too buff for me to handle.

How would you deal with people like that?
Ignoring would work fine as a temporary fix but I'd get sick of it sooner or later.
I don't think he has any respect for others so I can't try making him respect me.
He does ALOT of things against me. e.g. Made my surname into a swear word. -___-
Calls me out ALL of the time.
Obvious Alpha personallity with huge traits of stupid.

So... any tips? I'm working out right now to fix my physical.
Would a come-back of some sort work?


NOTE: This happens consistently with multiple people, so I thought of it as a sticking point for me. Just REALLY bothering my game and my life.
Serious question... How old are you?
I'm 18. (b-day 12 May)
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Why?


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:24 pm 
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So, uh, I've always been sociophobic, maybe I'm overanalysing this but imagine this situation:

I'm out with my girl. (she doesn't mind I get called out by assholes because I'm intelligent and have a future.)
This guy, from her class starts calling me out etc.
He's fucking buff, extremelly arrogant and definitelly will always AMOG me.
If I don't let him, I might get beaten up.
He's REALLY stupid and that makes it even worse for me. (arrogance makes stupid people unstable and forces them to compensate through other means... beating people up?)
If I went near him I'd get pissed off instantly, I WANT to punch him in the face, but even if I've been doing sports for months now, he's way too buff for me to handle.

How would you deal with people like that?
Ignoring would work fine as a temporary fix but I'd get sick of it sooner or later.
I don't think he has any respect for others so I can't try making him respect me.
He does ALOT of things against me. e.g. Made my surname into a swear word. -___-
Calls me out ALL of the time.
Obvious Alpha personallity with huge traits of stupid.

So... any tips? I'm working out right now to fix my physical.
Would a come-back of some sort work?


NOTE: This happens consistently with multiple people, so I thought of it as a sticking point for me. Just REALLY bothering my game and my life.
Serious question... How old are you?
I'm 18. (b-day 12 May)
hey-vt162364.html
Why?
1. Blow him out- Make him look like an idiot. Every shot he takes at you, take it to an extreme.
(example: “NICE SHIRT FAG!” “Thanks man! I actually have another one in blue too! I’m glad you approve!”)
Say that with a stupid, cocky, arrogant smirk on your face and watch the girl become more attracted to you. Remember, it is not about the spot light in the bar… it is the audience. Losing your frame to someone who throws a shot at you is a beta move.

2. Befriend Him- Direct your conversation towards him. Get his attention and teach him something. Explain something to him and allow your target to hear the conversation (not necessarily get her involved.. You want to ultimately get rid of him.) Demonstrating that you are able to make friends with even someone who is trying to make your value appear less will put your targets attraction THROUGH THE FUCKING CEILING. By teaching him something or involving him in YOUR conversation, you are demonstrating your social intuition and your inner confidence by taking authority over his actions while maintaining control of your own.

3. Ignore Him- The straight up, rockstar mentality. This, in my opinion, is the most effective way to show that you truly are the leader of fucking men. Act as if you are smoke and each shot he throws at you is just a rock that passes straight through. What is REALLY cool about this technique… If you maintain eye contact with your target and continue the conversation as if he doesn’t exist, she will sense your strong frame and you can FEEL that emotion coming from her.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:30 pm 
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I'll use this.
THANK YOU. <3


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:29 pm 
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^^^ Tehe, Love heart :P

But Seriously, those 3 points nail AMOG's perfectly. I had an issue recently with a big buff bastard- I was working on a girl at a quiet bar, when he suddenly comes over acting like he knew us both. After several insulting remarks about what I was wearing (as you'd expect) and how looked in general, he asks the girl I was with (HB8) if she'd like to sack me off and join him 'over there'. Openly, in front of my face.

I calmly asked him, looking him right in the eyes; "Just out of curiosity, why are you behaving like such a douche?"

The AMOG's always respond in an intimidating manner. After taking another verbal low-blow from him, I then immediately complimented him on his shoes, telling him that they looked 'fresh, man.' Trust me, they haven't got a frikkin clue what to do next after this obvious swing in demeanour.

Then while he is stood in silence while his brain is over heating, trying to thing of something to say, I carried on my sarge on the girl using straight eye contact, blocking the guy out, using step 3 as TheMajikalMethod pointed out.
This incident proved to me that being a little bit cheeky towards the AMOG can work wonders if applied correctly!

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 3:52 pm 
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Don't think every buffed dude is gonna beat you up. Sometimes a battle of wits is good, other times it's gonna make you look like you're having a dick measuring contest. There's nothing cool about a dick-measuring contest, but if you do need to be in one, let the Douchebags know they'll lose.

Him: What's up sir fag-a-lot.
You: Kathy, does your friend have a gay crush on me? Listen, I don't swing that way. I'm talking to your friend here. Tell this dude I'm not interested. I don't think he can take a hint.
Her: (smiles)
Him: I don't have a crush on you, I just think you need to come out the closet, fag.
You: I think you want me to come out the closet so you can be there waiting for me with open arms. Not interested, my man.
Him: ...

You can even pick on him.

You: From now on, when you enter the room, you're gonna have your own theme music... Trapped In The Closet by R. Kelly.

When you see him, pick on him. You're intelligent so you may have an extended vocabulary. When he runs out of ideas for jokes, you're just getting started.

You: I don't want to get into a battle of wits with you... you're gonna lose. I'll let you say all your smart ass remarks, you'll run out of stuff to say, then that's when it's my turn. I'll destroy you... and I'm only using the As, you don't want me to go though the dictionary in my head and hurt your little feelings.

Take the highroad, but when the highroad is blocked, sometimes you need to fight your way uphill. Women like men who are witty and can defend themselves verbally. Get into a battle of wits only if you have the upper hand. If this guy is an idiot like you say, you may beat him at his own game with a few comments.

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