Dated a girl, crashed and burnt with her due to needyness and insecurities.

On D2 she called me out on being touchy feely. how on earth do you escalate a girl that hates PDA?

also what's up with girls that try to control it when it comes to touching and sex?

eg. a girl before this one, wanted to have sex only when SHE felt like it.

This Girl loves cuddle etc BUT - when shes in my room. outside shes all about her independence.

WTF? and how do i get the upper hand in this? i've tried to brush it off by saying stuff like " i will if you stop looking so darn cute?"

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Are you pulling her towards you trying to escalate kino? This will make a girl feel uncomfortable. Each time you kino escalate, you should pay attention to how she is reacting. Once you feel her start to "pull away"... Push her off of you before she has the chance. (do so in a playful way... don't be like fuckin Rocky and hit her lol)

What this does is gives her the feeling of rejection before she is able to reject you. You want to create the tension but also be the one to take it away. That, my friend, is the proper way to escalate kino. Not to keep DIGGING, and DIGGING, and DIGGING until she accepts it. Make her WANT it by making her feel uncomfortable when she doesn't have it.

Can you please elaborate on this and give me examples? i've truly gone AFC with this girl and had been friend zoned. im only looking back to lean from where i've screwed so i can learn.

now that i think about it, i was the one pulling ALL THE TIME!

i remember after our 1st date, which went well, we arranged a D2. met up with some mates but they had domestics so i bounced with her before shit got serious. we sat in my car drinking and talking for ages, and she dropped the line "if you do that i'd root you for ages" i just ignored it and crried on - A fucking FC. tbh, i didnt even know how to handle a line like that.

end of the night, we bounced back to mine. she told me that i could take her dress off. i did. but it all stopped there. we sat up talking random shit and it ended in a message and us both passing out.

crown me as the world's biggest dumbass, because the next time she turned up, she was controlling all the physical contact and was distanced. and that night too she came over but we had dramas going and you could tell it was over between me and her, despite the SPAM telling us to goto my room and have sex. all that happened was that she asked if i had a shirt she could wear. game over. i ended up sleeping next to her.

could it be that she lost interest after i've come across too needy, not leading or escalating?


this girl is my Oneitis and its safe to say she probably moved on or found someone that can man the fuck up.

the rest of my failiures are in this post, which i will be updating soon : invite-her-to-my-b-day-vt159204.html

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Your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits, your habits become your character, and your character becomes your destiny.