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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is:
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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
A Sticking Point is NOT:
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
IT IS AGAINST THIS BOARD'S RULES TO POST THREADS ABOUT JUST ONE GIRL
If you have not already gone out and practiced enough to have a real Sticking Point from meeting an ABUNDANCE of women, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO POST HERE.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:39 am 
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I'm a great conversationalist, I'm confident in my body, I have good posture, and I have plenty of friends around me. I'm horrible at knowing when to turn the switch from conversationalist to lover/attraction though. There are two places I meet women, at my parties and in class. These are the situations I need help with the most.

At my parties I'll usually approach women while they are getting drinks, when they are playing a drinking game, or being introduced by one of their friends. I'm a funny guy and I know how to make a conversation light and funny, however the problem arises when I don't know when to stop being a friend and start being a potential lover. I know this had a lot to do with kino and I'm not a very touchy/feely person. My typical kino is just arm around the hip leading her around or when something were talking about is sexually charged. Sometimes though I can still feel that she is not totally attracted yet, even after some light kino, solid conversation and confident body language.

The second scenario is in the classroom. When I meet a girl I like a girl i'll usually ask her some screening questions like "what do you wanna do in life" "play any sports" and if it's similar to my passions then we talk about our shared interest. However, usually the conversation is not very sexual charged. The most tension I can work up is just staring deeply into their eyes. This makes it hard to find out whether or not they are involved with anyone. I don't want to ask if they are in case they aren't interested because then I might be stuck in a group with them the rest of the semester leading to a very awkward situation. It's also very hard to kino in class when you're seated and separated by your chairs/desks. To fix this i'll usually get their number early and try to organize some things outside of a classroom setting, eventually leading to them come to one of my parties.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:51 am 
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Don't go physical for the sake of going physical. Have purpose in your physicality. For what I've read, you are doing well with your physicality.

The purpose of going physical is to convey that you are a leader. That is perfect that you are leading the girl around. Example, lead her to the drinking area. Lead her to a quieter place. Lead her to go meet your friends. Lead her to a dark corner. Just randomly lead her anywhere. The guys who are consistent are the ones leading/bouncing the girl all over the place. This makes pulling the girl home a lot smoother. You've built compliance with her. It also counters LMR.

Now once you've made out with her, you should shift your purpose of your physicality to show her a preview of what will happen when you guys make it to your house. Examples are hair pulling, biting neck, hardcore make out, telling her "I would so fuck your right now if I could." That way she will know what will happen when you take her home. She won't be surprised when you pull your d*ck out on her.

So before the make out ... your physicality should convey leading. After the make out your physicality should convey a preview of what will happen when you take her home.

For the classroom scenario. You don't have to go physical there. You can convey leadership by leading the conversation. Just randomly change threads to topics you like. Even if you cut her off her topics. The eye contact is gold. Keep it up. Make her invest by making her qualify herself to you. Randomly cause awkward silences so she has to talk to you. This makes her game you. Experiment making hardcore eye contact and add awkward silence into your interaction. Watch the girls fall in love with you ^_^.

Lastly, the easiest way to go from a Man to Woman interaction, as suppose to friend to friend, is to start it to mane to woman. But, if you start it off friend to friend ... just randomly switch it to a Man to Woman interaction. There is no smooth way of transitioning ... just do it.

Example: Randomly say, "Hmmm ... I like those hips of yours." ... Grab waist and pull her in.
Start talking real close to her while making eye contact. Go for the make out whenever. Even though if she turns away just laugh and carry on the interaction. Then try for the make out again later. There is no real windows of when to push the interaction forward. The only way you can push the interaction forward, is for your to push the interaction forward.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:22 am 
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This is an issue for me as well. I can make good conversation, create interest, crack a couple jokes but I'm just a logical person and have trouble finding transition to the emotional.

But I can give you this: building on the touch to lead somewhere, WHERE you connect to lead can be big. Hands are good, the holding of hands is obvious in its connection. Shoulders are an awful choice, you're pivoting the body and allows some potential resistance. The winner is the lower lumbar region just above the buttocks. Three reasons: 1) its slightly subjective as your forcing a little hip thrust, 2) pushing the entire core, moving the whole body in contrast to one limb/side 3) its somewhat stimulating. Hell, I like the way it feels too. Next time you want to move her to another area just push her lower back with two fingers in the direction youre going.

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