Why do girls flake me ?



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:54 pm 
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Hi I'm a beginner who's just got past aa, going direct 100%.
The weird thing is my interactions seem to be going well, and I mean very well. The girls are so into me, like amazed by my confidence(they smile and agree), I'm also a funny guy. They all seem to be looking forward to meeting up, for sure they are attracted. But then usually they don't answer the phone, e-mail or whatever...WHY ?

Are my interactions too short ? I would say they last like 3-4 minutes, I ask for the nr, then I talk for 1 more min and then I leave. Ofc, I don't kino on street approach. I feel if I stay longer it gets boring so I leave when she is still attracted...

Maybe their logical brain kicks in afterwards and they think "oh that guy approached me in the street, I better not be answering- maybe he's some weirdo". If so, how do I overcome ? Build more comfort ?

Please give solid advice, someone who knows his stuff. I am missing something.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:30 pm 
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You have to look at it from their perspective. When they see your number come up on their phone when you call, they know that you are only calling so you can eventually get them into bed. That's a lot of energy they'll have to put forth in order to deal with you. The alternative of course is to simply not answer the call and then its a non-issue.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:51 pm 
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Ok that may be true. So how should I avoid this ?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:38 pm 
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It happens to everybody - from hot guys to mid range to dorks so don;t feel bad your not alone. I can uynderstand it is annoying as you are looking forward to seieng them again and you think you have made a great impression and believe that they want to see you only to have them not deal with you in the future.

Its hard to attriibute it to any one factor but it could be that they have a b/f, intrterested in somebody else , a cemotiuonal shift - ie at the point of meeting you they may of genuanly enjoyed your company and hada great time but days after when they are off that high of a ssaturday night they don;t feel the same

or it could be that some females don;t even know what they want. Many a time when I thought i was certain iw ould see a female again it just doesn;t work. Best way to deal with it is to not put too much imp[ortance on the number, like don;t get too excited by getting a females number and try to consider when you get the number that you don;t care if you will see them again. Get as many numbers as you can, act confident and the ones that respond then fantastic and the ones that don;t well let them be a happy memory of somebody who you spent 5 minutes of your life with - in other words a grain of sand on the beach or a drop of water in the sea - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:48 pm 
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It happens to everybody - from hot guys to mid range to dorks so don;t feel bad your not alone. I can uynderstand it is annoying as you are looking forward to seieng them again and you think you have made a great impression and believe that they want to see you only to have them not deal with you in the future.

Its hard to attriibute it to any one factor but it could be that they have a b/f, intrterested in somebody else , a cemotiuonal shift - ie at the point of meeting you they may of genuanly enjoyed your company and hada great time but days after when they are off that high of a ssaturday night they don;t feel the same

or it could be that some females don;t even know what they want. Many a time when I thought i was certain iw ould see a female again it just doesn;t work. Best way to deal with it is to not put too much imp[ortance on the number, like don;t get too excited by getting a females number and try to consider when you get the number that you don;t care if you will see them again. Get as many numbers as you can, act confident and the ones that respond then fantastic and the ones that don;t well let them be a happy memory of somebody who you spent 5 minutes of your life with - in other words a grain of sand on the beach or a drop of water in the sea - ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!


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I've never daygamed a day in my life, but I understand instant dates are like the holy grail in that particular area of expertise. It's hard to create a connection with someone you've talked to for 3-4 minutes, so ask them to go and grab a coffee, not some time, but now. Obviously, many will not have the time, so it's not a fool-proof method.
Also, calling back sooner rather than later will increase your chances, but the numbers game appears to be a numbers game either way.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:52 am 
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What time span do you think is a appropriate to make contact after getting the no ?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:39 pm 
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I would suggest to call whenever you feel like it. The sooner you call, the better the chance she'll remember who you are, and the better the chance you can continue the good vibe that you had in person. For example, if a fun conversation is interrupted because she (or you) have to catch a bus or something, you can even try calling her immediately. I imagine it also helps to announce approximately when you'll call, for two reasons: a) she'll know when to expect it and will not block it simply because it's an unknown number, and b) it serves as a check to see whether she's available for being on the phone at that particular time.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:44 pm 
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Hey,

It sounds like you're doing pretty well if you believe the interactions you're having are going well. So well done!

Personally I don't think you should beat yourself up too much, your interactions, if they are only about 5 mins are relatively short; the minimum amount of time I spend in set is 5 minutes but I usually spend up to 10, or if I have time for an instant date my interactions can last up to 30 minutes. Whilst this may seem like a long time I find it certainly does help in making closes much more solid.

Getting number closes is only the first hurdle, to ensure that you gain positive responses and strong closes you need to assure the girl that she did not give you her number in a moment of madness or unthinkingness. To do this you should think about extending your time in set or go for an instant date. Anything you can to do increase comfort and knock down the strangers' barrier is a good thing.

Also, I would suggest calling (or texting) no later than 24hrs after the interaction when her mind is still focused on the excitment of being stopped in the street or approached in the bar. I find that the longer a call-back is left, the less likely a girl is to respond because she has forgotten about all the positive emotions you made her feel during the initial approach.


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