Long story short, I like this girl and she KNOWS how crazy I am about her but she is in a serious relationship. We use to text a lot and have long convos but she never initiated even when she said "ill msg first next time or at least try to beat u to it" (gave her a month and she never gave in, wtf?) anyway we haven't texted for a while and never hung out yet either. I invited her to join me and some friends out twice and she bailed, well she had 2 good excuses but always said she will come out to hang next time. I also asked her to hang out one time, just the two of us and she said it might not be a good idea because it might be "weird between us" and how it might be "hard" for both of us, although she said she wouldn't mind it but she is considering how things are on my side (whatever that means lol)... So she would rather hang as a group at least at first...

So she is down to be friends, but I don't want to end up as "just friends" with her. So how should I approach this!?!?

I mean normally I would say she isn't interested but when I do text her our convos go on till one of us goes to bed, I mean we even went as late as 3-4AM and we had things to do in the morning. And this is like non-stop texting too so it is kinda weird. And ya there is a little flirting but more on my side...

I know too much texting is a bad thing so I been trying to avoid it but not sure how to play it out... Any tips!?

Haven't tried to BF D techniques yet but it would definitely make this situation more fun... And I haven't been trying to put much effort on this girl yet because I'm stuck on what to do... I really didn't push the hang outs too hard or even the text initiating so I don't come off as too needy...

*And yes I know the basics, to lay on some kino game and keep the flirting going when we finally do hang out. Not a complete rookie here

You have turned into the guy she tells her feelings to. Think about that. She fucks her boyfriend all night, then she gets on her phone and starts texting you about her feelings.

The only thing good about this is that you are an "on deck" guy now. And when she breaks up with her boyfriend then maybe you will be next in line to jump her bones.

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Not exactly...

She does tell me shit that she doesn't tell others, but its not like we hung out or anything yet. I could get her out but not sure if its a good idea since she seeing this other guy... She did say at first she wanted to be friends and didn't want me to be another mistake in her past. But that was before she got to know me at all and I think she is more open to it now. The only thing really holding her back is her boyfriends obviously.

The problem here is she ain't initiating shit with me but is always quick to reply and will go the whole day texting me back till we fall asleep. She loves hearing from me but why doesn't she even hit me up at all!?!?