This girl is a fucking hardass. I feel like i am constantly battling for frame over her. When i steal it back, she tries to get it back again. When i do cocky funny or throw negs at her she gives me the cold shoulder and acts like a complete bitch. Sometimes she even gets emotionally upset about it. It almost seems like when i through negs at her, instead of them DLV'ing her it just starts a war instead. At that point i think to myself, "well fuck, i might as well not do cocky funny/negs and just enjoy a pleasent time rather than having to be in battle with this poerson." SHE DOESNT STAND DOWN. Fuck, do i keep battling, or do i just surpass DLVing her and justr concentrate on DHVing myself?

It seems that she may be turning this playfulness into some kind of stupid immaturity.

Some women are just broken...

that's all I can really say about it...I'd walk away, no woman is worth that much heartache.

Depends on what negs your using I guess... If they are hardass negs and she's only a 6/7/8... She might just think you're dissing her.

But if they're playful and shes just not responding to them well, give her the cold shoulder. She's probably fishing for compliments after the negs... Not worth the time if you ask me. I agree with the Chef.

Unless! She is real, REAL , fine.

If your never letting her touch you, you should give in a bit soon.

i must ask.. if this has been going on a while she's not being a bitch.. she's just having fun playing the game and enjoying the chase. Without more information i can't tell you exactly what's going on but when you run into these girls they are teases and if you can break them then they're yours.

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it sounds like youve tried alot with her, AKA you may no her quite well. The fact is that if this is true she already knows you in a certasin way ( mainly from the first impression). when you talk to a girl youve never talked to b4 u use DHVs to make urself look interesting, but if she already knows you she knows what ur like and how intresteing you ACTUALLY are. and she is bound to see you as the person u were like on your first impression. So u may have cocked up the the first time you saw her an thats how she permanently sees you.

I dont no how well you know her, but if what is sed is true youll have to forget about, youve already cocked it up, an trying harder may even cause higher DLV

So, she has a strong frame. Some girls do. It's those that challenge you to have an even STRONGER frame. You should act like the negs she throws YOUR way don't bother you. AT ALL. That way you keep the frame. If her negs bother you, your done. And yes, you do need to DHV yourself more, if it's believable that is.

well, thanks for the help guys. And yes, we knew eachother very well for a while, but have not seen eachother for about 6 months so i think that is enough time for me to have been able to "become interesting." I am enjoying a good battle. SHe also tries to throw these "jealousy shit tests" in on me by telling me about how the guys she dated took her here and there and bought her this and that. I just react by saying, "wow, those guys are pussies and obviously dont know how to handle a girl." Is this a sufficient response? I usually just kind of show indifference to her jealousy attempts, is this how i should be responding when she brags about the guys she has dated?

Yes, you should be indifferent to the jealousy. As for that comment . . .
"wow, those guys are pussies and obviously dont know how to handle a girl." In order to really pull THAT comment off, you'd need to have a high level of confidence. In other words, some balls. It's not something any guy can throw around. In my case, I could, and have, gotten away with similar types of comments with different girls. If said right, they give you the sweet, priceless look of "I can't believe you just said that", and then want you more.

What I would do instead of that comment is say something like "and that's supposed to impress me?" Most any guy that has some level of confidence in himself can pull that off. Of course, the more confidence you have, the more effective any statement you make will be. And, I'm not talking arrogance, but confidence.

sweet, ill try that one too. I already dropped the pussy line and it went over well. She agreed with me and said, "i know thats why we aren't dating anymore." Then i proceeded to tell her about how most guys these days go wrong by overwhelming a girl with attention. She was melting in my hands after this, but my queston: By showing her how much i understand how guys do shit wrong, did i fuck myself over by revealing my knowledge of the game?

I appologize for the string of questions, im not really sure if this sort of activity is legal at this forum but it is helping alot.

questions? lega?? LOL, that's the purpose of this forum.

As far as "revealing" your knowledge of the game. Don't make a statement that it's the Game. If you just talk to her about the stuff like you say you are, in her mind . . . you "get it", which is ALWAYS a good thing.

DHV way more. I probably would slow down or stop with negs if thats how she reacts.

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I'd guess that this girl is a LEO. I've had similar experiences with female Leos. They are aggressive and dominant to a point, but it's really just a test to make sure you're a worthy mate. You have to dominate her in a way that shows that you're not intimidated by her in the least. Don't get angry, jealous, or physical (violent) with her whatsoever, because that shows that you're weak on the inside. If she spots that weakness that she's testing you for, she'll drop you like a hot potatoe. Be the alpha-male-lion of the pride!

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I'm having a VERY similar experience with a girl too, and she is not a leo she is a libra. After bumping heads with her in our games and her getting the best of our negging games a few times I concluded that she was just a huge tease and almost gave up. But I'm back at it now..

I really like her so I'm not letting it go but otherwise, these girls can be a huge loss of time and other opportunities.

i feel you. some bitches need to beinmg so hard. i been trying to run game on this bitch for like the past month and nothing gets through to this bitch.

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This girl just has no game when it comes to guys she likes. I would just keep blowing her off.

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