You have a good point here. After you calibrate you will be smoother. I agree you should work with your own material, but everyone has to start somewhere. When I was questioned about the Vh1 show I was very new and I think it was like my third time in the field using the stuff. Now, I typically stay away from the stuff used in the Venusian Arts book, The Game, or the Show. I know it's still in the "can" if I want it though.

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haha you guys are funny. I do direct method, but I can understand where you are coming from. The best way to react to the questions of whether you've seen the show or are using something on her is to either

A. Use push pull and treat it like a shit test if you are in attraction
Example: Yeah I have seen the show... omg you such a nerd you can't be my temporary gf anymore we are breaking up!

or to relate
B. Yeah I've seen that show it's amazing how guys with low confidence can be changed into their best selves through just a little training and hard work. The value of hard work is amazing to see first hand like that. It shows we can do anything. (I could really go anywhere with that open loop) What's something that you've worked hard for and achieved?

or heck you could always do a magic trick :p


everyone that looks at mysteries show as negative is just putting more limiting beliefs on themselves. The people who look at it as a rare chance to push the bounds of creativity and show your true colors are the ones that will be successful, not the ones sitting around complaining about how lazy they are. Stop being lazy because there was a time when I was way better at it... only problem. I didn't get shit done. Get shit done.

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Self help.. that's mental masterbation. Self Destruction.. now we're getting somewhere!
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If you want to avoid this problem all together, don't use routines that are well known like the 5 questions and best friends test. Be original

Don't deny it. If you do then she'll know you read it.

Admit it, discuss it, and learn more about her.

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guys, if she calls you out on it... use it!

as a girl, we are looking for... practically begging for someone who runs something other than "so, do you come here often?" It's refreshing.

You should be looking at girls who know about the game with a similar glee because it's an opportunity something to break you out of your canned material.

And yes, if you are a PUA superstar, you could possibly pick me up on the street without my knowledge of... wait. it probably won't happen. I don't mean this in a narcissistic way... I mean if someone has studied a combination of body-language, venusian arts, game, whatever.. I will notice because it's my job. It doesn't matter how natural you are, I'm still dissecting what's going on between us. The reason I'm saying this goes back to the point of this post: I won't care. I'll appreciate it.

Girls are only getting more and more knowledgeable about PU. It should make people stop freaking out because it does not matter. It really only affects canned material.

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Well see many girls don't understand pick up very well. They may read a little bit but most of the time they think it's a sham. It's funny because they're usually the ones that go for it. Girls don't recognize openers very well if they're done right. Most of the time they're doing it wrong.

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