So basically I asked a girl to "hang out."

Of Course she played the "I'm busy" card. She was sincere, apologized and said, maybe another time with a

Figuring she was truly busy, I asked her out again a week later. Same response.

Asked her out again another while later. Saaaaaaaaaaame fricken response.

She was really elaborate as to why she couldn't go so I'm assuming she may have actually been busy all those times, but I'm not stupid either. It's quite obvious that she is probably blowing me off.

I then asked her something along the lines of "hey, if you don't want to hang out that's fine, just tell me and I'll be gone and out of your hair." Of course I got the response "No, no, I just have a really busy life and a big family. I'm really sorry!!!"

So I've waited for about a month and I asked her again just today if she wanted to go ice skating.

One of her guy friends found out and they've been laughing about it on fb. It's quite obvious she's been talking to him about me, and more than likely he's telling her not to go with me.

I have two questions.

1. Where am I going wrong/should I move on?

2. Why hasn't she told me she doesn't want to hang out. I've must of asked her 4 or 5 times to go do something and each time I get "Im busy." Wouldn't she just get tired of me asking her and tell me she doesn't want to hang out? Especially if she's laughing with her guy friend about me asking her out?

I mean, at least have the decency to tell me you don't want to hang out, instead of laughing with your friend about me. Is that so hard?

Definitely move on... not even a question
Trust me, when the girl think you are worthy of her time, she will make time for you no matter what, unless there is really something serious going on in her life, but I doubt anything could last more than a couple weeks.

And that "if you don't want to hang out..." thing is totally unnecessary.
You see, when dealing with girls, "trying to know what she thinks" doesn't provide solution to "trying to approach her". You can have a general idea by reading her action and act accordingly, but it doesn't help when you bash your head just trying to know exactly what she has in mind. But I'm just gonna be honest with you, she just doesn't want to look bad. Some girls are just not smart enough to be direct and make things easy for everyone. Years of experience taught me it's faster to "make yourself better" than "make someone right". Don't even try to make sense of other people.

Each time you ask her to hang out and she rejects you, it puts you in a worse position. To neutralize this, you should have other things going on in your life and let her know that through some way. When you ask her to come out, make it sound like "she could join me in something I already planned" than "I'm reserving myself for you"

ok so she is flaking in a pattern, this shows she is likely a waste of time, but before you move on, or you start thinking, wtf is going on here?, it's time to corner her with a wounderful thing called... qualification

so, there is a problem here, she is always ''sorry and busy'', now, how can we dis-qualify, this problem? you simply remove it from being possible, and get her to aknowledge that, there for she can no longer justify her actions, and her doing so without justification, makes her look worse socially

so here is an example, for new girls, as soon as you see a flake and hit the pattern, qualify them, immidiately dis-qualify the problem

you: hey, I want to hang out with you on Wednesday
her: ya sure

wednesday comes

her: hey, you know how we were supposed to hang out today?
you: ya?
her: well I'm really sorry but my grandma has aids, and she wants to give them too me cause I'm making up a bullshit excuse
you:ok, no problem

^ so this is most likely similar to what you are experiencing or doing, or maybe she is giving you the excuse without saying yes, doesn't really matter, so here is the solution

her: well I'm really sorry but my grandma has aids, and she wants to give them too me cause I'm making up a bullshit excuse
you: ok, no problem, when will you be free to hang out and won't have any issues that could come up, so that I don't make plans with you, cancel on my other friends, then get canceled on by you?
(set out the behavior you want to see, and justify why you want to see it)

then she either tells you when, and she has qualified for you, or she makes up an excuse why she can't, and you continue to play the qualification/dis-qualification game with her until you get her to just be honest, or if you are texting she goes non responsive and stops answering you to avoid the tension, the key here is to do this on the phone rather then over text/facebook, so she can't do that, she has to answer you or it would be weird, so you just eliminate all of her excuses until you get to a clear answer and understand why, also if you are stuck with an excuse that you can't figure out how to disqualify but it seems like bullshit, just question her on it this is useful for when a girl has already previously qualified that she won't flake, but does anyways

her:hey you know how I said I would be free, blah blah blah, im sorry, I blah blah blah grandma... aids blah blah

(call her instead of text right after you get her text, call her out over text if you know she has her phone, something like, ''lol, you just texted me, and you don't answer your phone?... you're so weird)

you: oh that's terrible to hear about your grandma, where is she dieing of aids?
her: blah blah blah,
you: shit, when are you going to see her?
her: blah blah blah
you: no way, I want to get her a get well card, meet me up so you can give it to her
her: blah blah blah excuse
you: no I insist, that's terrible AIDS etc.


if she seriously just can't be convinced, it's time to move on and mentally next her, the less attention she gets, the better, if she is invested at all, she will start to miss your attention, if she is not invested and that is why she was flaking, then you were wasting your time anyways

to be fair, flaking is usually a sign of a girl being low on interest, or doesn't know you well enough, or is simply sexually unavailable, so while this improves the chances of her not flaking, it is not the be all end all, you should just make a really good impression to begin with, so that she doesn't flake in the first place

GOOD LUCK

Big family= run for the hills! That's my experience. She'll just put you on the back burner and put all her family's needs in front of yours. Then all of them will talk shit behind your back too. Eff that.

However, since you are going to dismiss this one anyways, I'd really turn the screws on her in one last conversation. Get all pushy and specific. Ask her when her free time normally is. She'll know that your trying to pin her down and she'll bullshit and be like, "Well usually I have some time off on Tuesday...but THIS Tuesday is no good..." Then be like "What about next Tuesday?" Then when she gives you her final line of BS, be like "That's what I figured." then hang up on her and never call her again.

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