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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:48 am 
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STICKY POINT
Hey guys. Went on a day sarge today and got stuck with what to say after the open and dhv story. Now, I have routines to throw in afterwards such as the minemonics routine and all the normal stuff but I DONT want to be only running routines!! Rather, I want more of a natural conversation flow that I can bust shit out of when the right opportinuity comes. This way it can be like: Normal conversation, push pull, compliance test, normal conversation, comfort builders,normal conversaiton kino escelation...
MENTOR TO SEE I AM ON THE RIGHT TRACK
Below I have written what I am going to do to run this normal conversation. My own solution, however to see that I am leaning towards right track can some of the more experienced guys to tell me if they agree with this type of method I will be using. Do you have any pointers/diagreements/ideas for improvment that I can use to overcome this sticky point? Am I on the right track? I would love the feedback
MY SOLUTION TO PROBLEM, IS IT RIGHT
Now, the basic bloodline I want to have for a conversation is Mysterys multiple conversation thread with smaller veins flowing out of it, such as role play and other routines. However at the moment I'm having trouble making the same multiple conversaitonal threads with strangers as I do with my friends. So what I have now is all the smaller veins but no bloodflow. I have thought and read about this and have discovered two possible solutions that will link my opener/dhv to multiple conversation thread, and keep it going if it dies out. The first, is the Interview style pickup questions masked as cold reads. Instead of asking the girl where are you from I will say:
'your alone and are not very talkative, I bet your not from this area.' Then she says no and tells me the area she is from then I can bust out a story cocky funy/negs keep the interaction going.
The second things is something I read in The Game: Making open ended SPAM that lead them to ask you questions. I dont really know how to do this. Should this be done in story telling, where you specifically leave out details for them to ask you about (Can this be done in other ways?????) like the example in the MM where the guy says 'I picked up my new car today and the sales person would stop hassling me about my watch. Anyway Sarah said she had to pick up her instrument for the concert tonight and we left...'. This one would be awesome because your not talking about the target or showing much interest in her.
Now, once I have the mutliple conversation bloodline thread pumping I plan to use cocky funny accusations, role play, story telling and cold reads as smaller veins flowing out from this bloodline, then when the right opportinuity comes I will throw in a routine such as push pull as another blood vein.


This post is pretty big but I have made it this big because I think it is a major problem that everyone faces when learning the game. I am well aware I am not alone here so as much feedback as possible would help us all.

Cheers


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:56 pm 
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wow where to start
first about statements that lead the hb to ask you questions usually you have to exagerate whle telling an opened ended statement u "it is really dangerous where I grew up" hb "why where did u grow up"
second using mysterys mutiple conversation is good because you never run out of things to talk about as long as you keep some stories unfinished
rune readings are getting easier to spot since the vh1 show be careful
pretty much you got a solid game plan


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