So i have this ... incapabilty. I caN't get women out, as its read. I don't go to normal places like "hey wanna go for dinner/lunch/movies?" its boring. I tell them "My mates and I are heading over for jungle trekking later on, you've gotten an invite so you're coming". It has a 15% success rate I must say, its disappointing.

And there's this OTHER incapability... I seem to get the phone call rejection a lot. I mean, I call, don't pick up and I KNow that girl plays with her phone a lot. I send a message , no reply... like... forever, looks like I got dissed what can I do bout this?

Would like detailed explanations and suggestions, I'm pretty lost in this part.

ok im just going to assume junlge trekking is hiking, and seriously, no girl wants to be stuck in the woods with a bunch of guys she doesnt know, and thats kind of a rough way of telling her she is going. if you want an environment with friends take her to a party, otherwise keep it one on one and stick to the boring stuff, because yes it is boring, but its where you really learn about your target. the best locations for day 2's are places you can get a girl going, because getting her talking is where you'll learn what it will take for you to seduce her or perhaps create a real relationship with her. going out for coffee is usually good, as long as you have enough things to talk about to not let the convo drop. then dinner and a movie comes next for me, because it gives you the oppertunity to play w/e game plan you have on her, while also displaying gentlemanly qualities at the same time. basic but effective. and on the invite thing, you're kinda laying it down on her rough, with that kindof activity, you dont want to force anything down. maybe the outdoors arent her thing for all you know. it's a possible activity maybe for a day 3, because you will know she likes the outdoors because it came up in conversation when you took her out for coffee. im not really sure what invite might work best for that activity to be honest, because you want to direct her, but you dont want to be forcefull, and thats a tricky activity. hopefully someone else might have some ideas for you on that one.

anyways, good luck

PB

Ok, for getting women out. Dinner/movies may or may not be boring for the girl, BUT it's not good either. At least not something for a 1st or 2nd "date". You take her along to some place like the mall or a department store, or mini-golfing, or just something FUN. Something were you can INTERACT with her and get to know her, kino her, make her laugh, DHV yourself, etc. Go someplace public.

Ok, for the phone call rejection. Once you have sufficiently attracted her on the initial meeting, and she WANTS to see you again, that should change your phone call problems too.

You need to build attraction on the initial meeting, before you ever get the number. And, in fact, if she likes you enough, you may not even have to ask for the number, although DON'T BE AFRAID to ask for it either, just do it in the right way.

I've had a couple of girls call my phone before to hear my ring tone . . . then viola, we've swapped numbers. Lol. The girls loved it. That's just one idea though. That won't apply to every situation.